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January 9, 2014 7:29 am #16


Re: The best man speech - full text

Sorry, the link does not work for me either although I am logged in. 


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January 9, 2014 11:09 am #17


Re: The best man speech - full text

I know this is slightly off topic (but just slightly), but could somebody please enligten me: is it common for the speech of the best man to mainly circle around the groom and his relationship to the best man? Because come on, Sherlock is not really talking about Mary and John, he is mainly talking about Sherlock and John. About their cases, about their stag night, about their love for each other/their friendship... Mary is just a side note, sort of.


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January 9, 2014 11:58 am #18


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Ahem, I think this is a very Sherlockian variety of Best Man Speech. Basically it is a declaration of love (you are free to choose which sort of love) to John.
I am trying to remember what our best man said … well, he did mention me a bit more often than Sherlock did Mary. 


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January 9, 2014 1:02 pm #19


Re: The best man speech - full text

Well, Sherlock is not as close to Mary as he is to John, I don't think he had a choice ;)


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January 9, 2014 1:27 pm #20


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Most of the best man speeches I have heard did focus on his relationship and the general personality of the groom.  With a bit of the bride and their relationship tossed in toward the end.

I have no problem believing that Sherlock can consider himself "ridiculous."  Especially when comparing himself to John, a man whom he admires above all others.  Behind Sherlock's arrogance and bravado lies a great deal of insecurity.


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January 9, 2014 1:40 pm #21


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Actually, if you take out the flashbacks, the speech isn't so weird at all, I think. The anecdotes would have been a lot shorter than the flashbacks, and he does mention Mary a few times. All went well until he dropped his champagne glass. 

 

January 9, 2014 9:26 pm #22


Re: The best man speech - full text

How do you view it?...

 

January 9, 2014 9:55 pm #23


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mujie wrote:

How do you view it?...

Was that to me? I don't understand the question. My point was that storytime was actually shorter than storyteller's time and thusly, the speech is not as long as it seems. 

 

January 9, 2014 10:09 pm #24


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Sorry. Not you. I mean, the text in the post. The best man speech. I can't seem to view it...

 

January 9, 2014 10:14 pm #25


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Sorry, there must be something wrong. I cannot access it either although I was logged into AO3. Maybe it was taken down for some reason. 


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The only person that should be pardoning anybody is him. (Benedict on the Royal
 pardon for Alan Turing)


Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. And I'm also a great believer in
treating others as you would like to be treated. (Benedict Cumberbatch)


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January 9, 2014 10:15 pm #26


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Arrrgh, I read it, but I also wanted to put it onto my kindle. I didn't. 


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January 10, 2014 12:43 am #27


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Yeah...if anyone finds a new link, please post it.

Most best man's speeches are mainly about the friendship between best man & groom, yes. Sometimes the best man might not know the bride all that well anyway, so wouldn't know enough to talk about her, and occasionally the Father of the Bride will do a speech which is more about the bride.

I didn't have a problem with the "ridiculous" bit. It was said in a light hearted way and shouldn't actually be taken literally. There's definitely different ways to use the word ridiculous.

Example One: Dismissing a theory
"That's ridiculous. No way that could have happened."
Tone: Dismissive, critical

Example Two: Friendly banter
"You're ridiculous, mate!"
Tone: Light hearted, jovial.

Sherlock's use of it was closer to Example Two than Example One, is what I'm trying to say.


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January 10, 2014 2:17 am #28


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Sherlock Holmes wrote:

There's definitely different ways to use the word ridiculous.

Example Two: Friendly banter
"You're ridiculous, mate!"
Tone: Light hearted, jovial.

Interesting.  Maybe other Americans have heard or used the word in this way but it's new to me.  I've only seen/read it being used in a dismissive manner.  Another example of two nations separated by a common language. 


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January 10, 2014 2:34 am #29


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"a ridiculous man"? who said that? I'll cut them where they stand.
HUH? what? Sherlock said that?.... um well... never mind.

(to the tune of.. "do indeed shut up Mrs. Hudson")
He is in fact, a ridiculous man.

 

January 29, 2014 7:35 am #30


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Was trying to find it again myself… annoyingly only bits and pieces of, that people have put up.  And then finally remembered one of my favorite sites for such tv quotes… Wikiquotes, of course.    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sherlock
Awesome site for that kind of thing, and someone put up all the relevant parts of the speech.    Might want to copy favorite part in case they decide to 'trim down', though.  It's not always heavily enforced, but in being considerate of copyright, they try to keep the number of quotes (or the really really long ones) down.


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