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May 31, 2012 1:42 pm  #1


Slant magazine- negative review

Read this review with interest but found some of the assertions by the reviewer frankly ridiculous. I will pick on just this one about the acting being very good and 'Grounding the interesting but structurally unsound screenwriting.'

I really hope that Steven Moffat reads this and uses his Bafta to thwack the reviewer over the head should he ever meet him. One thing you cannot accuse Steven Moffat or Mark Gatiss, or indeed Steve Thompson, of having is screenplays which are structurally unsound.

Not sure this link works but try it if you want to read the whole review.

www.slantmagazine.com/DVD/review/Sherlock-season-two/2322


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May 31, 2012 7:49 pm  #2


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

Hm, doesn't work for me...

but how can they? D':

 

May 31, 2012 8:00 pm  #3


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

how about this link (seems the 'DVD' in the url is case-sensitive). 

http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/sherlock-season-two/2322

 

June 1, 2012 3:04 am  #4


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

I've learnt quickly here that many members either cannot or will not click on links, so I'll copy & paste here with a link to show ownership:

The second season of BBC's Sherlock is an act of stabilization after a violent tremor. The quake, as it were, is the arrival of James Moriarty, the eponymous crime fighter's arch nemesis, here played with a taste for the demented by Andrew Scott. Sherlock's exemplary first season is capped off with the first appearance of Scott's Moriarty, at a high noon-type showdown at a sports club pool against Sherlock (Benedict Cumberbatch) and Dr. John Watson (the invaluable Martin Freeman), and, as one might expect, the second season is something like Moriarty's cotillion ball.
Made up of three feature-length episodes, the second season nevertheless oddly only really gets into the adversarial nature of Sherlock and Moriarty's relationship in the final and best episode, "The Reichenbach Fall," in which Moriarty sets up Sherlock as a kidnapper, murderer, and utter sham in the public eye. Elsewhere, Moriarty's hold over all things evil and duplicitous isn't felt nearly as strongly, including his control and perversion of Sherlock's quasi-love interest, the mysterious Irene Adler (Lara Pulver), who, in the first episode, is targeted for withholding risqué photos of her with a female member of the Royal Family.
Publicity, both good and bad, is a major theme of the second season, which begins properly with Watson working furiously on his blog, which has become a minor sensation, detailing Sherlock's exploits. What's more, the show's most revisited joke concerns Sherlock's fury over being photographed wearing a deerstalker, the hat that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's original hero can't be imagined without. As one might deduce from such occurrences, the Sherlock series is a bit playful with its mythology, which certainly adds to its novelty, but also hinders the power of the show's narrative pull.
Indeed, each crime that Sherlock encounters, not to mention every victim, save Adler, seems to be a passing fancy, secondary to Sherlock's uneasy friendship with Watson or his admittedly engaging sibling rivalry with older brother Mycroft (series co-creator and BBC stalwart Mark Gatiss). And if the series developed these two relationships past the parameters initially set up by Gatiss, his co-creator Steven Moffat, and the series's writers, this might not be a flaw necessarily. As it stands, however, the series lacks in conflict, largely due to lack of any real nemesis other than the largely absent Moriarty. In the second season's weakest episode, a retelling of the canonical "Hounds of Baskerville" narrative, the show's attempt to tend to a vast array of storylines rather than focusing on the mystery itself (that of a ferocious murder and a series of horrific sightings of the titular beast) waters down the show's sense of conflict and challenge.
Ironically, it all boils down to the reality that it's now not enough that Sherlock and, on occasion, Watson simply act intelligent and clever; the show itself must seem clever and relevant and hyper-aware. It's a fault of ambition, which is ultimately the easiest sort of flaw to forgive and yet the one that most spoils the fun of good detective shows. One need only look at derivatives of Holmes, such as Hugh Laurie's Gregory House and Idris Elba's John Luther, to see how the initial embracement of episodic structure and cop procedure can give foundation to explore bigger, more ambitious storylines as a series moves ahead.
For all its minor pleasures, Sherlock is a show that's appropriated totems of modernity without much reason, other than to see its titular protagonist become befuddled or enraged by its fickle curiosities and endless accumulation; the blog, texting, cell phones, and other advances are merely new ways for Sherlock to proudly flex or pathetically guard his rampant ego. The direction, courtesy of Paul McGuigan and Toby Haynes, admirably tries to convey the onslaught of technology and social media visually, but the result is more hectic than full bodied. Only the performances, from Cumberbatch and Freeman to Una Stubbs's Mrs. Hudson and Rupert Graves's Lestrade, are excellent across the board, consistently grounding the interesting but structurally unsound screenwriting. As written here, Holmes is, in his way, as hyperactive as the culture he lives in, needing of a constant cerebral fix and without much in the realm of patience or calm of mind. Yet, we're still asked to see him as something above that, something rare: a brilliant, bemused mind at the calm and ready in the violent torrent of a perverse, unhinged society.
Image/Sound: (4 out of 5 star rating)
BBC has done some nice work with its 1080p AVC-encoded transfer of the second season of Sherlock. Visually, the show is very busy, but with the exception of some minor crush and banding issues, the transfer peerlessly brings out all the colors and textures of the show. Clarity and sense of detail is extremely good, though there's some grain-like noise that's noticeable, albeit never hugely distracting. Black levels are inky and beautiful. We don't get an HD-DTS soundtrack, but the Dolby Digital more than gets the job done, with dialogue clear, crisp and out front. The lively score and ample sound effects are nicely balanced in back. Not a home run, but a very good-looking and sounding transfer nonetheless.
Extras: (2 & 1/2  out of 5 star rating)
Benedict Cumberbatch and Lara Palver engage nicely with the material in the commentary for "A Scandal in Bohemia," with producer Sue Vertue and show co-creators Steve Moffat and Mark Gatiss. There's rarely a lull in the conversation and all members sound enlivened with the discussion of the episode and the series in general. The commentary for "The Hounds of Baskerville" is less involving, but an informative listen regardless. The 20-minute behind-the-scenes featurette, I imagine, will be a treat for more die-hard fans of the shows, though it ultimately feels more like an elongated promo trailer than anything else.
Overall: (3 & 1/2  out of 5 star rating)
A fun but slight frenzy of nerd love, the second season of Sherlock arrives on Blu-ray from BBC in a suitably handsome package with a strong visual/audio transfer.



http://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review/sherlock-season-two/2322


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Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
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June 1, 2012 3:06 am  #5


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

I need to read this more than once, but at first read, I agree with this statement:
As written here, Holmes is, in his way, as hyperactive as the culture he lives in, needing of a constant cerebral fix and without much in the realm of patience or calm of mind. Yet, we're still asked to see him as something above that, something rare: a brilliant, bemused mind at the calm and ready in the violent torrent of a perverse, unhinged society.

This is a different Holmes than the canon one, in terms of outward serenity. However this is explained away by the fact that Moftiss are portraying a Younger Sherlock Holmes.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

June 25, 2012 7:09 pm  #6


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

*sputters uncontrollably*

You know, I'm going to say something, and I apologize in advance if it offends. I cannot stand when Americans review British TV. There is a HUGE difference. Instead of seeing the text onscreen as a brilliant way to explain what Sherlock sees, it's "appropriated totems of modernity without much reason".
Instead of seeing Sherlock's attitude towards the deerstalker as a nod to ACD's books, it's seen as a hinderance. Because, you know, if you go to London today, there are LOADS of people wearing them on a regular basis.

Yet another ignorant person trying to sound important by down checking something he doesn't understand.

*seethes in corner*


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June 25, 2012 8:24 pm  #7


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

I don't know what you mean? I never go outside without my deerstalker on, along with my frock coat and my beaters, of course!


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June 25, 2012 11:00 pm  #8


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

I don't think I saw the show the writer is describing. I watched Sherlock, a brilliant, contemporary updating of a classic literary character.  All the negatives mentioned in the article are the personal opinion of the writer (and, yes, I know all reviews are) but I think the point and purpose of the show escaped that particular reviewer.


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June 26, 2012 1:31 am  #9


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

Davina wrote:

I don't know what you mean? I never go outside without my deerstalker on, along with my frock coat and my beaters, of course!

Well then my apologies to you Madam ;)


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Lestrade: "And happy new year."

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June 26, 2012 2:29 am  #10


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

Don't be so harsh, it can be found online, so it must be true.

Be careful with this post, it is laced with more irony than many of you will ever know.


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Also, please note that sentences can also end in full stops. The exclamation mark can be overused.
Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

June 26, 2012 3:01 am  #11


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

Those who can, do, those who can't, write pompous, pretentious drivel about the cleverest of shows on television. What does the reviewer like pray tell?


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June 26, 2012 3:22 am  #12


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

His criticisms of Baskerville have warrant and as said before, his read on how Sherlock is portrayed to us & what we see on screen certainly has merit.
Yes, he is American & therefore does not understand some of the context; but then neither do most Americans in reality. So for an American readership, he probably has forewarned those people : "Either you get it or you don't; it is a hard context to learn".

Luckily there are 3 layers to this show & 'the masses' would still be happy with only the first I would assume.


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Also, please note that sentences can also end in full stops. The exclamation mark can be overused.
Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
 

November 20, 2012 5:17 pm  #13


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

Well, he has a point about the lack of engagement between Sherlock and Moriaty, and the strange choice of emphasis in HoB...though he totally misses the point in other regards. I, for my part, have no problem to see this version of Sherlock superior in mind to the regular people. And if you don't get the references...your bad! This show is made from SH-Fans for SH-Fans...to complain about that is simply narrowminded. Just because the attitude in TV normally is to dumb everything down to the most common demonitor, it doesn't mean that all shows have to be that way. If there is a show which adresses people who actually bother to read the original stories, it is not bad....you can say that it has a limited audience (though I believe that you can enjoy the show even without getting alll the refenrences), but if this audience will honestly enjoy what the show has to offer, who is there to complain?

 

November 20, 2012 7:33 pm  #14


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

Okay, I read the review once and it really didn't seem to make much sense to me or have much substance, which I guess is what it's basically accusing the show of ironically. And, I don't feel compelled to read it again. I generally take reviews with a grain of salt, since they're basically just someone's opinion, and I prefer to see and judge for myself. Though it would be interesting to see what this person does consider quality television. I'm not sure it's an American TV vs British TV thing. I'm an American and I have a great passion for British TV. As far as being a slave to canon or not, I don't remember anyone complaining about the fact that Robert Downey Jr. doesn't wear a particular hat either. Either way, it doesn't deter the legion of fans the show has and never could. 


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November 21, 2012 2:44 pm  #15


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

People who really know canon also know that the hat is a creation by the illustrator, not by ACD. Sherlock getting photographed with the hat he normally doesn't wear is therefore an injoke.

 

November 26, 2012 7:36 pm  #16


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

Swanpride wrote:

People who really know canon also know that the hat is a creation by the illustrator, not by ACD. Sherlock getting photographed with the hat he normally doesn't wear is therefore an injoke.

Yeah, it can be taken as just jokey about an earflap hat / death frisbee or as the BBC show's reference to a picture taken of and published of SH wearing a deerstalker which appears published in the books as a picture (illustration) or as a nod to many films etc where Holmes chooses to wear one as if he had originally chosen it as part of his wardrobe.


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December 5, 2012 9:41 pm  #17


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

Exactly, if you want to blame anybody for the deerstalker, blame Sidney Paget or William Gillette. In other words...DO YOUR RESEARCH!!


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January 9, 2013 6:21 pm  #18


Re: Slant magazine- negative review

How dare you, whoever-wrote-this-report...!


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