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January 30, 2018 3:46 pm  #1


Call Me By You Name

Yea, I'm in love.
Movie and book.

Anyone out there interested in discussing either or both?  http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png

All opinions welcome.


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January 30, 2018 8:16 pm  #2


Re: Call Me By You Name

First I have to say that I have only read the book since the film has not been released over here yet. 

Tbh, I was disappointed since there had been so much praise on Tumblr, many people who had hoped for Johnlock changing over to CMBYN. Therefore I was surprised that the story ends the way it does (I think the film is different, ending with the separation and dispensing with the "what happened later" part). To me Oliver choosing to marry a woman is not much different from John Watson choosing to marry a woman if we regard both men as bisexual. I found that the ending lacked a certain dynamic.

On the plus side: the gay love between the protagonists is never questioned or criticised from a moral point of view which is nice. 

But - and this is my personal experience - the love story simply did not grip me, it did not feel authentic to me. After some time I got impatient with the hesitation between the two men since I could not understand why they did not act on their feelings much earlier, especially since there was no moral judgement in their environment. I could not feel the passion. 

After reading that the author is a middle-aged, allegedly heterosexual college professor I started wondering about his motives. Because if he is writing from experience, I would have expected more passion. And if this is autobiographical, why did he choose to write from Elio's point of view instead of Oliver's (assuming that Oliver would be his alter ego). 

I think I shall give the film a try and see how I feel about it. Anyway, as you can see the book gave me food for thought which is always a good thing. 

P.S: The film I just ordered and which I am very excited for is "God's Own Country". Maybe we can watch both films and then compare opinions. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png

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January 31, 2018 1:58 am  #3


Re: Call Me By You Name

I haven't seen this film, but I've seen a mix of opinions about it. I thought about going to see it at the cinema, but I'm not sure I need to see it before it's available at home that badly.
The only things I know are that the actor (Timothée) portrays young love well, apparently, and that there's a sexual encounter involving a peach.


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January 31, 2018 8:40 am  #4


Re: Call Me By You Name

Ahem, yes. The peach. This was one of the moments in the book that did not impress me at all. 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)

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January 31, 2018 2:36 pm  #5


Re: Call Me By You Name

Yes, opinions are very mixed and I completely understand why some people are disappointed.
I read the book after seeing the movie so I was picturing the actors while I read and they really were enchanting in the film.  Plus, the book does go a bit further so that was a bonus.

For me the ending (book and movie) made me sad, but I wasn't disappointed or offended by it.
All along I saw both characters as bisexual so their relationship wasn't defined by the fact that they were both men.  I'm sure this is heavily influenced by the fact that I am bisexual.  The fact that I ended up marrying someone of the opposite sex doesn't mean I stopped being bi. 
So, I didn't see Oliver marrying a woman as a betrayal or denial or who he is. 
I was disappointed that Oliver and Elio didn't end up together, but not because Oliver married a woman.
Oliver went with what was easy.  He could have possibly stayed with Elio, but it would've been hard. 
And in the end it might not have worked out anyway.
I believe their relationship, while beautiful and real, was one of those things that aren't meant to last.  They happen at a particular place and time and can change us forever, but from the start they have an expiration date.  Elio and Oliver loved each other in a bubble; and while it might have been possible to take it further, ultimately Oliver choose to go back to the real world.

On an additional note, even if you don't like the ending, the movie is absolutely gorgeous!  The cinematography, the music and the performances are all outstanding.  And Timothee Chalamet is quite deserving of his Oscar nomination.

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January 31, 2018 2:39 pm  #6


Re: Call Me By You Name

PS.  Susi, I have heard great things about "God's Own Country" too.  Will have to see it.


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