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December 21, 2017 10:12 pm  #261


Re: Still unexplained secrets?

I have no doubt in my mind that Mycroft cares deeply about Sherlock. At the same time, he IS "The Ice Man", who belives that the end justifies the means. That is the two aspects of him that I find extremely interesting.


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December 22, 2017 6:50 am  #262


Re: Still unexplained secrets?

I think his other Xmas reactions were out of guilt over what he'd just done!


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December 22, 2017 8:48 am  #263


Re: Still unexplained secrets?

Yes, possibly.  There must be a lot of guilt there.  I wonder if he carries guilt about taking over from Uncle Rudi with Eurus too.   I remember he also felt guilty about putting The Woman in Sherlock's path.  With Magnussen, I still have that half-baked idea in my head that Mycroft set that up, expecting that John would be the one to kill Magnussen.  I'm not sure if the scene when Mycroft tries to get Sherlock to shoot him in TFP (as he feels John is more important to Sherlock's future happiness than he is) disproves that, or shows guilt over it! 

Giving Moriarty to Eurus was a "calculated risk" for the greater good, and I'm not sure in the end how much harm it did - after all, Sherlock was courting Moriarty in TRF and in the end successfully conspired with Mycroft to bring him down.  Maybe the five minutes with Eurus actually helped in that process?  Or at least didn't hinder. 

It's an interesting thing to look at.  A bit like watching Memento in chronological order!  I'm thinking now about Mycroft being worried about Sherlock's feelings that Christmas, after Irene supposedly died - did he think it might trigger memories for him?   And at the end of ASIB, when he's talking to John about how to tell Sherlock about Irene's death/disappearance, he mentions Sherlock wanting to be a pirate, so he does feel the childhood experience is connected.  I wonder if he's thinking then about how Sherlock dealt with it the first time (amnesia), and whether that's a sign that he doesn't actually want to know the truth (not that it's the actual truth anyway, as it turns out Irene is alive and well after Sherlock saved her!)?

 

December 22, 2017 10:10 am  #264


Re: Still unexplained secrets?

For once I completely agree with SusiGo! But then, Mycroft has always been the one I've hated most from the supposedly "good guys", right from his first appearance. By season 4 even Mrs. Hudson dislikes him...

 

December 22, 2017 10:18 am  #265


Re: Still unexplained secrets?

Funnily enough, I think it's the other way round for me!  I always loved seeing him on screen, and enjoyed his arrogant, sinister, calculating side (obviously if I thought he was plotting to have John kill Magnussen, then I wasn't seeing him as saintly!), but I think I warmed to him more during S4 than I ever had before.  

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December 22, 2017 12:29 pm  #266


Re: Still unexplained secrets?

Same here. To me, Mycroft became more and more interesting as a character as the seasons progressed, culminating in TFP. Great character, the most interesting one apart from Sherlock and John, I think.


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