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January 15, 2017 10:46 pm  #21


Re: The Final Problem: First impressions

Whisky wrote:

Carefully asking... is there anyone like me who didn't like it much? Because... I didn't.

 

Actually,I think I must rewatch it first as it was confusing and crazy sometimes (and also in original as the dubbing sounds strange and spoils the impression). I think it will be better when I know what is real . 

Cannot say I did not like it but..i am a bit disappointed. TLD was much better . 

 

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January 15, 2017 10:46 pm  #22


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THAT is your problem? That was the least of my problems with this episode...with the whole season, to be honest. It has been the weakest by far, and no, that had nothing to do with Mary.

 

January 15, 2017 10:46 pm  #23


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Loved it! What a ride! I can't remember last time a show left me this gutted and drained - always a good sign.

And it was left more open-ended and ambigious than I thought it would, with room for Parentlock! 

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January 15, 2017 10:49 pm  #24


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Hold your horses with parentlock, we don't know whether he actually texted Irene, you know. I KNEW Moftiss would go for ambiguity. Devious bastards.


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January 15, 2017 10:49 pm  #25


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SolarSystem wrote:

Whisky wrote:

Carefully asking... is there anyone like me who didn't like it much? Because... I didn't.

Same here. It didn't convince me on various levels. And to start at the end: Having Mary speak what seem to be the final words (at least for now) is just a huge NOPE for me.
 

I hated it. I don't care about ruining anyone's buzz, yeah it was a hell of a ride but disregarded pretty much ALL plot development up to the final scene. That was some of the most disappointing production and wiriting I have seen out of BBC, EVER. Having Mary as narrator at the end all of a sudden, and possibly the final voice of the whole show, ever? When she was a barely mentioned, minor character in the books? And don't get me started on hte blatant abuse of Molly's character they metaphorically fridged her. 

The children were the best part of the whole show. 

What a watse of brilliant talent, those actors gave everything to their parts. I'd be shocked if they came back to the show. 

 

January 15, 2017 10:50 pm  #26


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Whisky wrote:

Carefully asking... is there anyone like me who didn't like it much? Because... I didn't.

Same here. It just didn't feel right at all and I'm very disappointed about many things. I just don't want to be this sister they suddenly brought up to be behind it all because it makes everything that happened in the genius first two seasons pointless for me and I hate that. It's a bit like in 'Spectre', where someone suddenly popped up to say: 'Hey, know what, all that happened to you recently: It was all me' without any sign that it might be so.
It all seemed very forced and very non-sherlock, I may have to watch it all again, but my first feelings after it ended are anger and disappointment.
 


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January 15, 2017 10:51 pm  #27


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@SolarSystem: I am actually relieved to hear this. I thought I'd be alone with this feeling.

At points I felt so disappointed it hurt. I loved the second episode, and I was hoping so much for the final, and after ten minutes into the episode, I realised: this is not it. That felt quite bitter.
 


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January 15, 2017 10:51 pm  #28


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This thread has more posts than the original, so probably easiest if we just move our posts over here (sorry, I can't merge the threads!).

I'd posted:
Wow!  I loved it!  And now I see what they mean about it feeling like the end of an era, and the story they've been telling all along.   Funnily enough, it was quite different to everything that has gone before and yet tied up the loose ends, and completed the story. 

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January 15, 2017 10:52 pm  #29


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I feel physically strained even; from the get go it was horror, my heart right in my throat... 

I know for sure I can't make coherent comments before seeing it again tomorrow evening... sitting down... calmly... with subtitles... 


I can say, I'm glad I managed to go spoiler free. When Sherlock put the gun on himself I panicked. I actually thought he'd do it... 

I was not sure of anything. Often when I watch a film after the first few minutes I'll have guessed the ending (sorry, that's me bragging about my intellect, huh) but this was really unpredictable... 

I had no idea (safe for this strangely fitting a dream I had some years back I couldn't get out of my head... but never mind that) but I just had no idea what would happen... it was as unpredictable as the mind of a mentally ill person. 




Okay, I'm back to incoherent screaming and I think I need the loo... and possibly my sleepy pills... 


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January 15, 2017 10:52 pm  #30


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I'm confused. Not confused as in I don't understand the episode but confused as it was weird and I'm not sure how I feel about it. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/confused.png


There were some moments I liked but overall...


                                                                                                                      

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January 15, 2017 10:53 pm  #31


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Parentlock!!!

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January 15, 2017 10:53 pm  #32


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This was the most disturbing psychological horror I ever watched (not exactly the genre I enjoy).
But I am overjoyed that the main characters all survived. 
Also I loved the ambiguous and sweet ending.

The only thing that bothered me were ridiculous powers of Euros. They were so over the top they were more funny than scary, TBH.

But overall, an OK episode.


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January 15, 2017 10:53 pm  #33


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Dumai wrote:

Why did they even bring up Irene Adler again?

I think she's kind of a symbol of his romantic feelings.  I thought it was rather sweet, that it was what came up when Eurus said "Play you".  Apparently Sherlock is all about romantic yearning. 

And did he have sex?  http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png

 

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January 15, 2017 10:54 pm  #34


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I'm confused. Not confused as in I don't understand the episode but confused as it was weird and I'm not sure how I feel about it. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/confused.png


There were some moments I liked but overall...

You are not alone with that... It feels very strange atm... Cant breathe

 

January 15, 2017 10:54 pm  #35


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It was terrible - the writers usually score ***** out of 5
But this time I award them just *

 

January 15, 2017 10:54 pm  #36


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But as a Mycroft fan I was happy about his screentime.

Sian Brooke was really great, but that role so annoying I was rolling my eyes a lot. 

Mystream broke several times, so I have to watch it again. But it won't be like after series 3 where I immediately preordered the DVD. 

I think my main criticism is that it didn't felt like my show anymore that I loved.

I have to give it time I guess.


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January 15, 2017 10:54 pm  #37


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Ivy wrote:

There was even a time I had tears in my eyes because I thought "what have they done to that show"! and a part of me hoped it would be a mindpalace thing.

Ah, yes. Completely agree. I kept hoping for over 60 minutes till I slowly realized it's for real.
 


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January 15, 2017 10:54 pm  #38


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As I posted my topic it was the first one, sorry for the caused problem^^

 

January 15, 2017 10:55 pm  #39


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Copying from the other threat: After having seen the whole season....I was very underwhelmed overall. The problem was that there was to breathing room. The whole season went from one dramatic moment to the next...but without the down-time, the funny moments in-between, they had no punch to them. I just felt numb. And I feel confirmed in my opinion that the writers just should have let go of Moriaty. CAM was a great villain for season 3, they could have found another one for season 4. Or multiple ones.  

It also didn't help that I was pretty sure that the girl in the air-plane wasn't real from the get go. For starters, what would happen if flight control lost contact to a plane? They would try to find it. And no plane that small is able to stay in the air for this long without running out of fuel.

And wow, they remembered the baby for 5 seconds...I mean...wtf?????

I also have to add that it was kind of annoying to see exactly what we wanted to see teased in the end. I didn't want to spend a whole season either in Sherlock's mind palace or in over-dramatic situations. I wanted those small moments of them interacting with each other and their friends including John's family. And I wanted them to actually solve cases.

Also the shows greatest "crime" is that it has become utterly unpredictable. It's ironic, but when they were still work closely to the books, I had a harder time to follow the twist and turns than now, that they are mostly throwing in references. In this episode alone I knew that the girl on the plane wasn't real that the innocent two of the Garridebts would be dropped, that John would end up in the well....

Oh, and the jump out of the window was ridiculous.

 

January 15, 2017 10:56 pm  #40


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Vhanja wrote:

Parentlock!!!

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