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January 5, 2017 11:41 am  #21


Re: Hellish tropes

Oh yes it surely is. I love Norway!
Probably a bit dull for someone like Moriarty or Sherlock though.


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January 7, 2017 7:25 pm  #22


Re: Hellish tropes

Interesting topic! I was wondering if Magnussen kept Mary's secret about being an assassin from John, at a great cost- a very personal blackmail- could the baby be Magnussen's? [ you may say EWW here..]He's as fair haired and blue eyed as John

 

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January 7, 2017 7:28 pm  #23


Re: Hellish tropes

Why would Mary want a relationship with CAM when she clearly loves John?


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January 7, 2017 7:30 pm  #24


Re: Hellish tropes

besleybean wrote:

Why would Mary want a relationship with CAM when she clearly loves John?

Sleeping with him could have been the price she paid for his silence. I certainly wouldn't say Mary would WANT to willingly do so!
 

 

January 7, 2017 7:32 pm  #25


Re: Hellish tropes

I think Mary's more a bumping somebody off girl, rather than allowing herself to be abused...the show seems to support this theory.


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January 7, 2017 7:34 pm  #26


Re: Hellish tropes

I don't think the baby is CAM's, partly because Mary seems surprised and shocked when CAM sends the telegram.  I don't get the impression she had had recent contact (and had sex with him).  Very shortly after hearing from him (days after returning from honeymoon?), she is ready to kill him, and I think the telegram was the trigger. 

I also get the impression later that Rosie is John and Mary's. 

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January 7, 2017 7:34 pm  #27


Re: Hellish tropes

besleybean wrote:

I think Mary's more a bumping somebody off girl, rather than allowing herself to be abused...the show seems to support this theory.

Oh, I so hope you are right rather than me in this case! I guess my suspicions were based on the fact that I have long wondered how Mary got into and out of Magnussen's office without being detected by security and Janine,.
 

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January 7, 2017 7:35 pm  #28


Re: Hellish tropes

Well Mary certainly isn't around to defend her honour, but I will try and do it for her!


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January 7, 2017 7:38 pm  #29


Re: Hellish tropes

besleybean wrote:

Well Mary certainly isn't around to defend her honour, but I will try and do it for her!

Excellent, and right now it says Threatened knighthood under your name. Perfect for someone performing a good deed.
 

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January 7, 2017 10:26 pm  #30


Re: Hellish tropes

Liberty wrote:

I don't think the baby is CAM's, partly because Mary seems surprised and shocked when CAM sends the telegram.  I don't get the impression she had had recent contact (and had sex with him).  Very shortly after hearing from him (days after returning from honeymoon?), she is ready to kill him, and I think the telegram was the trigger. 

I also get the impression later that Rosie is John and Mary's. 

Also, by the time she got the telegram, she was already pregnant. 
 


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