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November 23, 2017 10:06 pm  #141


Re: These "series 4 is the last" rumours

I couldn't find it on YouTube to share, but there's a recent Vanity Fair interview with Ben, concerning The Current War, mostly. In the interview, he's asked if there's a new Sherlock season coming, and he replies: "It's resting".

He actually seems a bit dismissive about the question, as if he doesn't want to go into it too much (understandbly, seeing as he is probably under a payed contract to do PR for TCW), but what he says just confirms what we've been hearing all along, I think. 


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November 24, 2017 7:21 am  #142


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Yes I really don't think there is any big conspiracy and this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone: the team are consistently saying there are no current plans to make anymore episodes.  But it is not because people don't want to do it, they just do not physically have the time.


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November 25, 2017 1:40 am  #143


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Not right now, they don't, no.  But I'm hoping that within 2 or 3 years, they will.
 

 

November 25, 2017 8:05 am  #144


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I don't think it will be as soon as that.  I can't see how Benedict's schedule alone would allow for it.


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November 25, 2017 11:37 am  #145


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Well, as far as I know there are not that many confirmed projects: How to Stop Time will start filming in March. And then maybe "Rio" and "Gypsy Boy". And a theatre project. Should be doable in two years. To me, it seems to be more about the writers than the actors, tbh. 
 


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November 25, 2017 1:09 pm  #146


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Yes they both see very busy at the moment, which may appear a tad strange, with Steven departing Dr Who...
However the pertinent point remains this: as Mark said, 'This is the first time(in several years)they actually have no plans to make any Sherlock episodes.'


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November 25, 2017 1:48 pm  #147


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Steven said recently and quite clearly if I remember that the show was not over. 
 


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

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November 25, 2017 2:00 pm  #148


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Nobody wants it to be over...that doesn't really give us anything concrete!


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November 25, 2017 6:02 pm  #149


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I do think one thing's clear: there's a line drawn between what we've seen so far and what comes next.  The ending of S4 seemed to be the ending of an era.  It's no longer the "Sherlock Begins" story, with the shaping of the character.   The actors are in their 40s and more of a similar age to Rathbone and Bruce - I can't see them being "young" Holmes/Watson in a few years time.  

Along with having done the backstory/prequel, they've also done the major stories - clarified Sherlock's relationship with Irene Adler, killed off Moriarty, etc.  They'd be going into the classic mature Holmes era but with Moriarty already dead, which seems kind of odd. 

Not that it can't be done, of course, and I'd be more than happy to see it!  I'm just wondering if those things take some of the urgency out of "must write S5" for the writers.  They've got the "insane wish fulfilment" out of their systems?  They're not quite as drawn to the next episode now that they've finished their big arc?

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November 25, 2017 6:36 pm  #150


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I agree with Liberty that an era of the show being over so they have to start something new. And it would be different, having a middle aged Sherlock and John as per other adaptions, but with most of the major stories already done. 

I wouldn't speculate too much about Ben's schedule, though. We only know what's officially confirmed, I bet there are quite a few projects up in the air and being worked on, without a confirmed date so far. Movies, TV-movies, mini series, plays, perhaps something he wants to write/direct/produce himself... I think we only see and know the tip of the ice berg.


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November 25, 2017 7:42 pm  #151


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I'm glad they finally admitted they killed off Moriarty too soon...mind you, there was always the danger of over using him.
Selfishly I just can't get enough Andrew Scott and I strongly suspect I'm no alone in that view.


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November 25, 2017 7:56 pm  #152


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besleybean wrote:

I'm glad they finally admitted they killed off Moriarty too soon...mind you, there was always the danger of over using him.
Selfishly I just can't get enough Andrew Scott and I strongly suspect I'm no alone in that view.

Where did they admit that?

But, yeah, very much agree with your second line. Actually, I wasn't aware of how much I've missed him until he turned up in TFP. I was SO happy, I was surprised myself at how happy that made me, and at how much I had missed him.


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November 25, 2017 7:59 pm  #153


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Well I'm sure as I've said ad nauseum: the whole cinema erupted with joy when he appeared and we all screamed with laughter at his scenes.


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November 25, 2017 8:14 pm  #154


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I suppose at the time, there was no guarantee of a third series, and they wanted to do those three big stories in S2.  Maybe it was the right decision at the time, to complete the Moriarty story ... and of course, they wrote before they saw how well it worked with Andrew!  I'm glad they found a way to show him again in flashback, because I'm aware that for years, we've only seen Sherlock's mind palace version. 

I love Andrew in the part, but I'm actually not as hugely enamoured of Moriarty as a character as Moftiss are ... I sometimes feel he's a bit lacking, as if his whole essence is just being Sherlock's nemesis. 

 

November 25, 2017 8:16 pm  #155


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I actually do feel that is his whole purpose and that works for me!


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December 5, 2017 5:11 pm  #156


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I come back to this thread often, praying for someone to say "guess what, Moftiss announced S5 of Sherlock is confirmed". It would so make my day/month/year. Because, you know, it just makes me so ridiculously sad that it's over.

I know there's still a lot of fun to be had in fandom, fanfic, rewatches, etc, but seeing Sherlock as something in the past, that has already happened, instead of something that is still happening and full of possibilities, depresses me in a pretty silly way. I don't want the actors to grow old, I don't want to watch S4 and think "oh, look how young they were and how ridiculous the special effects seem now that we have 3D/virtual reality/teletransportation/whatever". I want them to still be alive and doing stuff while we wait for them to be back. Does anybody feel that way as well? I feel a bit ashamed to be so sad about fictional characters.

That said, I really can't imagine what kind of S5 could make me feel excited if it had to happen 2-3 years from now. Do they just solve cases without an overarching plot? That seems underwhelming after what we've seen during the first 4 seasons. Do they start another overarching plot from scratch, maybe a smaller one that only spans along one season? Again, underwhelming. Do they bring Moriarty back? Hey, I'm game for that, but I don't think it's going to happen. So even though I really, really want S5 to be a reality, I can't get excited about any imagined possibility and I can understand the writers and actors can't either.

My personal prediction is that they'll go back in ten years or so, Gilmore Girls style, maybe if both Ben and Martin go through a minor slump in their careers, maybe out of nostalgia or to capitalize on the former success of the show. Maybe then we can get excited about what happened during those ten years and that enough can give the show a last and glorious season. 


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December 5, 2017 5:29 pm  #157


Re: These "series 4 is the last" rumours

There was a piece posted on my Martin Freeman alerts today, wasn't sure if it was an old one...if I can actually copy and paste onto here:
http://www.zimbio.com/TV+News/articles/tK6mptrOJkm/Steven+Moffat+Discusses+Old+Man+Sherlock+Possible

Oh and I've just spotted it on my Benedict alerts, too!

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December 5, 2017 7:17 pm  #158


Re: These "series 4 is the last" rumours

besleybean wrote:

There was a piece posted on my Martin Freeman alerts today, wasn't sure if it was an old one...if I can actually copy and paste onto here:
http://www.zimbio.com/TV+News/articles/tK6mptrOJkm/Steven+Moffat+Discusses+Old+Man+Sherlock+Possible

Oh and I've just spotted it on my Benedict alerts, too!

"Benedict Cumberbatch (a.k.a. the hottest combination of an alien and a glass of milk)"

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Yeah, for me that possibility makes a lot of sense. Or maybe it's just the way Moffat tries to avoid sending us fans into depression if he confirms that S4 will be the last one unless some kind of miracle happens.  


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December 7, 2017 2:30 am  #159


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Well, if they're going to wait until Cumberbatch and Freeman are old and gray, they may as well just go ahead and announce the show's permanent cancellation, and have done with it.  No use in even planning to bring out a 5th season sometime in the future, if we'll all going to be in our rocking chairs and leaning on canes, if not dead, by the time it's ever made.

However, Moffat and Gatiss haven't announced the show's cancellation yet.  And as long as they don't, there's a chance that there will be a Season 5.
 

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December 7, 2017 7:35 am  #160


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That bit made me laugh.
I mean come on, even 21 year olds can PLAY old men...if you know what I mean!


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