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February 25, 2016 9:51 am  #1


Comparing scenes in different adaptations

I really just wanted to start a new thread so that I could post all these versions of the famous scene in which Sherlock Holmes and John Watson sit in a train carriage together.

The original Sidney Paget illustration from ACD's "The Adventure of Silver Blaze"
http://41.media.tumblr.com/f5d4bb02e01f43d3af8d33ae8b19ebf8/tumblr_inline_nzdh3ai41b1s4bpjg_500.jpg


Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce in "The Hound of the Baskervilles"
http://40.media.tumblr.com/2b0fb129167888be56b4de72eba7351d/tumblr_inline_nzdh07t4dD1s4bpjg_500.jpg


David Burke and Jeremy Brett in Granada Sherlock Holmes "The Speckled Band"
http://40.media.tumblr.com/fa17a6343eb18c465cd0addb2c2003f5/tumblr_inline_nzdgwbAdPC1s4bpjg_500.jpg


Jude Law and Robert Downey Jr in Guy Ritchie's "Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows"
https://pmcmovieline.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/sherlock2_holmeswatson630.jpg


And of course, Martin and Benedict in BBC Sherlock's "The Abominable Bride"
http://40.media.tumblr.com/5e100201b26f2af2292a76c5b8f1d90f/tumblr_inline_o0pjb1ArDX1seeamn_1280.jpg



Are there any other scenes which can be compared across different adaptations like this?


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February 25, 2016 9:57 am  #2


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

Thank you, this is amazing! Just some observations: 

- Please note the extreme closeness of Brett and Burke. They look as if they were going to fall in each other's lap any moment. ("I don't mind.")

- No comment on Downey and Law. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


- Our boys are actually quite far away from each other. Which may be due to the fact that this scene is not so much a cosy trip to the countryside but a man working out multiple psychological issues. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png


I do not have the time but if I may propose another set - what about the Reichenbach scenes in Paget, Granada, TAB, etc.?
 


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February 25, 2016 10:36 am  #3


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

As you wish

Sidney Paget's Reichenbach Falls illustration from ACD's "The Final Problem"
https://iansadler.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/the-final-problem.jpg


Sherlock Holmes throwing Professor Moriarty into the Falls in the Granada series
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/b8/ca/f8/b8caf86dffceac91a7d93bb986cc6ef9.jpg

http://s11.postimg.org/xpkgroscv/image.jpg


No good screencaps from Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows, I'm afraid
http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/sherlock-holmes-a-game-of-shadows-sherlock-james-moriarty-reichenbach-waterfall-ending-robert-downey-jr-jared-harris-review.jpg


The Reichenbach Falls scene in Sherlock: The Abominable Bride
http://scifiempire.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Sherlock-and-Moriarty-at-the-Reichenbach-falls.jpg


https://monitoringbroadcastsignals.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/sherlockchristmasspecialreichenbach1.jpg
 

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February 25, 2016 11:15 am  #4


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

Thank you, this is very interesting. And it is fascinating to see the differences and similarities. 

I remember how shocked I was about the scene in "A Game of Shadows" because Holmes is falling in front of Watson's eyes - something which our Sherlock team did in TRF as well. Making Watson watch is of course even worse than having Watson come only afterwards. 

I also liked Holmes's peaceful expression during the fall, echoed in a way by Sherlock's wide smile in TAB. 

 


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)

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February 25, 2016 11:43 am  #5


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

Good idea for a thread, ukaunz.

One scene that comes to mind immediately is the scene of Watson encountering Sherlock in an opium/ drug den:

http://www.nyu.edu/library/bobst/research/fales/exhibits/wilde/images/holmes.jpg


https://41.media.tumblr.com/deb8ed8883e56895a4b2b87021f2a454/tumblr_nusadmvEXk1th3zwno3_1280.png


http://www.thecultureconcept.com/circle/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Sherlock-Drug-Den.jpg


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February 25, 2016 12:01 pm  #6


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

Of course, there is also the scene from Bruce-Partington Plans involving a corpse of the unfortunate West being placed at the top of a train carriage:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/The_Adventure_of_the_Bruce-Partington_Plans_06.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/aZkO8.jpg


And Sherlock and John, examining the window, where this happened:

http://ignisart.com/camdenhouse/images/bruc-04.jpg

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/35100000/Sherlock-1x03-The-Great-Game-sherlock-holmes-and-john-watson-35106015-1280-720.jpg


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February 25, 2016 12:08 pm  #7


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

Great examples, nakahara


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February 25, 2016 12:27 pm  #8


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

Another cute scene:

https://bexeyybeauty.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/blog12.gif?w=748

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b0/f3/a2/b0f3a20fc19f5ce3b5abc4bc6846b4bd.jpg

http://49.media.tumblr.com/58a85cd89ba169642d8ed6ff5f8910ca/tumblr_o0axuiFd3b1tajor5o1_400.gif

http://45.media.tumblr.com/9e4d7e2330420d287febdc863cb948b7/tumblr_o0axuiFd3b1tajor5o2_400.gif


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February 25, 2016 12:29 pm  #9


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

A gesture from your first picture was featured in S1:

http://41.media.tumblr.com/f5d4bb02e01f43d3af8d33ae8b19ebf8/tumblr_inline_nzdh3ai41b1s4bpjg_500.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--siZJlv0Bgg/Uj0YFsjG6ZI/AAAAAAAAICg/KwwFqTINevk/s320/Benedict+Cumberbatch+and+Martin+Freeman+as+Sherlock+Holmes+and+John+Watson+in+BBC+Sherlock+Season+1+Episode+3+The+Great+Game.jpg


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February 25, 2016 9:45 pm  #10


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

More good comparisons

How about this? A classic Sherlock pose.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/21/41/5d/21415defb3d2c426de64fe6a739e849f.jpg

http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/med_cat/19748256/44784/44784_original.jpg

https://benwilliamsworld.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/sherlock-watching-telly.jpg


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February 25, 2016 9:46 pm  #11


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

Great find, ukaunz! Just one of those little details that they still paid attention to!


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Clueing for looks.
 

February 25, 2016 10:23 pm  #12


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

I saw a wicked theory that if Sherlock sits normally, his deductive skills decrease by 20%... http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/lol.png


I´ll guess this outfit seems similar either:

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2qxfwbji81r5lfl4.jpg


http://kissthemgoodbye.net/sherlock/albums/s02e01/Sherlock_2x01_A_Scandal_in_Belgravia_720__0624.jpg

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February 25, 2016 10:26 pm  #13


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

Wow, I hadn't picked up on that one! What Granada episode is it from?


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February 25, 2016 10:33 pm  #14


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

I just wanted to say, great thread, and great examples! 

 

February 25, 2016 10:48 pm  #15


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

ukaunz wrote:

Wow, I hadn't picked up on that one! What Granada episode is it from?

Illustrious Client.

And the placement of Sherlock in the sheet in the BBC ASIB scene isn´t accidental either - he deals with illustrious client in that scene too.http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png

 


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February 25, 2016 11:25 pm  #16


Re: Comparing scenes in different adaptations

In Granada The Empty House we have this cute bibliophile offering John books before he unmasks himself as Sherlock:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-39i2FQ6D4Cw/VJ9-FBIcaZI/AAAAAAAA2tw/j_TSCkgWKWw/s1600/empty7.jpg


In The Empty Hearse, the scene is inverted - the book seller is real! And all his books retained their names, but changed into a porny trash materials in form:

http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ScreenShot025.jpg?15016e


In the russian version, Sherlock removed part of this disguise, then John gently removed the remainder of that:

http://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lipvhbfXEa1qi0d88o1_250.gif

 


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February 25, 2016 11:29 pm  #17


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Love it!


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February 25, 2016 11:36 pm  #18


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Rathbone Sherlock Holmes making experiments with the fireflies and the violin sounds:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/76/8b/e4/768be46ffeb0f9901bdaed89e2832412.jpg


Just as Downey´s Sherlock:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/sherlock21.jpg


BBC Sherlock just has Mycroft as his fly:

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14600000/Sherlock-and-violin-The-Great-Game-sherlock-on-bbc-one-14628772-624-352.jpg

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February 25, 2016 11:48 pm  #19


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That is awesome!


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February 26, 2016 12:02 pm  #20


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In Sherlock Holmes PC game Crimes and Punishments, Sherlock investigates the vile murder of an old whale-hunter who was pinned to the wall by his own harpoon (canon case of The Black Peter):

http://images.cgames.de/images/idgwpgsgp/bdb/2558805/944x531.jpg


In order to prove that only a very skilled hand could kill the man with the harpoon that way, Sherlock demonstrates that for an untrained person it is almost impossible to draw harpoon through the body smoothly with one strike. He does that by stabbing the butchered pig with this weapon repeatedly:

http://ignisart.com/camdenhouse/images/blac-50.jpg

http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks/c00016-images/blac-rg-01.jpg


In BBC version we see only an aftermath of that case:

http://anglotopia.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/sherlockharpoon.jpeg


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