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April 17, 2014 11:27 am  #1


Fargo Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

Just thought I'd start a thread so the people who have seen it can discuss the series with full spoilers. I feel like this is gonna be a really good series, I'm already hooked and can't wait for the next episode.

When he went to talk to the assassin dude in the cafe and he gave him that little lecture about being a man and stuff, I thought to myself, as the series progresses he's gonna end up turning into a bit of a bad ass. Five minutes later he'd smashed his wife's head in with a hammer, lol. I so wasn't expecting so much drama so soon. I mean, three people died in the first episode! It's so exciting!

I have a question as well....how did the assassin dude escape from Lester's basement? I mean, he just went down there and then disappeared. And why did he go over to his house in the first place if he was just intending to run away and abandon him? Maybe he only decided to leave once he heard the police car arrive outside.
 


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April 17, 2014 11:47 am  #2


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Or maybe, aside from being a pretty manipulative bastard, he's also keen on taking a look at the results of his manipulations. He asks Lester on the phone if he'd been a bad boy. When Lester says "Yes", Lorne (that's the name of the guy) probably has a pretty good idea what happened... and he wants to take a look. Otherwise it would be no fun for him, right?
And he certainly never intended to help Lester in any way.


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April 17, 2014 12:00 pm  #3


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I think we need a thread just for pictures of Martin in an under vest. 

Just kidding.  Well, kinda not.  LOL

Not sure how dude got out of the basement but I do believe the reason he left was because the other cops had showed up.  I was really shocked when he killed the chief.  When Molly went to tell his wife..............most heartbreaking moment of the episode.


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April 17, 2014 12:06 pm  #4


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But he never really intended to help Lester clean up the mess, right? He's just not that kind of guy.

I made some screenshots and could post some of them later... but tonnaree, he's just moving so fast when he's taking his shirt off... 


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April 17, 2014 12:48 pm  #5


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April 17, 2014 12:49 pm  #6


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Technically he did help Lester by killing the cop.


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April 17, 2014 1:12 pm  #7


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But Lester certainly didn't think of that sort of help when he called him. He wanted him to help him get rid of his wife's body.  


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April 17, 2014 2:09 pm  #8


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Sherlock Holmes wrote:

 
Men in bloody shirts aren't sexy
Men in bloody shirts aren't sexy
Men in bloody shir......................aw hell

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April 17, 2014 2:15 pm  #9


Re: Fargo Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

Sherlock Holmes wrote:

This = just yes!
 


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April 17, 2014 4:04 pm  #10


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April 17, 2014 4:53 pm  #11


Re: Fargo Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

I love the first episode so much.  It usually takes me a few episodes to sink into the world and get to know the characters before I feel truly engaged in a show, but Fargo was one of the few where I felt immersed right away. 

As of right now, my favorite character is Molly.  She's adorable.  She's already been shown to be very bright and good at her job and I like seeing her become a little more confident in her abilities throughout the episode and the pride you could see on her face when her mentor told her that she'd make a great chief someday.  I think the writers were trying to tug at our heartstrings with the pregnant wife business, but I felt the most sad for Molly when he died.  She's going to have her job cut out for her given the incompetence of everyone else around her.

I had two favorite scenes.  The first was Lorne going to Sam's warehouse and telling him, "I just wanted to have a look at you."  So creepy.  The other was the last scene between Molly and Lou where he's just being a dad.  "...people in this world are less inclined to shoot a hostess than, say, an officer of the law."  Awww.    A good father/daughter relationship always gets me in the heart and I love the small glimpse we got of theirs in this episode.

The most uncomfortable scene was definitely the scene between Lester and Sam.  Ugh.  I do think they made Sam too much of a one-dimensional over-the-top villain (see also: Pearl), but Martin's acting in that scene was fantastic.  It was almost unbearable to watch.  A lot of people are disturbed by the violence/gore of the show, and fair enough, but it was the relentless bullying that made me squirm.  

The two biggest laughs for me were both at wildly inappropriate moments (as they should be in something Coen-esque): the "oh yeahs" from the girl Sam was having sex with and Lester's face just before/as he takes the hammer to his wife. 

I somehow forgot that Bob Odenkirk was in this and didn't recognize him when he first appeared on screen.  I was delighted when I realized who he was. 

 

April 17, 2014 6:37 pm  #12


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I think it was a great move to make the premiere 90 minutes.  Would like it if all the episodes were that long.  Sherlock has spoiled me. 


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April 17, 2014 10:33 pm  #13


Re: Fargo Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

Are future episodes going to be shorter then?


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April 18, 2014 12:18 am  #14


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Don't know.
Need to find out.  


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"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
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"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong."   Melissa Ethridge

I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

April 18, 2014 2:29 am  #15


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Noah Hawley talked about that briefly at the Paley Center Q&A.  I don't have any direct quotes (sorry) but the gist of it was that they edited the first episode and it ran long - 68 minutes when an hour long drama on US television is 47 minutes.  The network didn't ask them to edit it down any further and instead gave them a 90 minute slot.  He said that FX carried on that way with all ten episodes and didn't hold them to a standard running time.  I don't think he said how many of their episodes ran long though.

 

April 18, 2014 12:00 pm  #16


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That's awesome!  Kudos to FX.


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"Anyone who takes himself too seriously always runs the risk of looking ridiculous; anyone who can consistently laugh at himself does not".
 -Vaclav Havel 
"Life is full of wonder, Love is never wrong."   Melissa Ethridge

I ship it harder than Mrs. Hudson.
    
 
 

April 18, 2014 7:42 pm  #17


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I also love seeing Keith Carradine again,   as Molly's ex-cop dad,  wisely out of law enforcement,
running the diner..   I really enjoyed the first episode.      I enjoy how the over-the-top accents and
over-the-top cold are almost characters themselves.

 

April 22, 2014 8:12 pm  #18


Re: Fargo Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

Finally saw the first episode of Fargo today. Phew! What a rollercoaster! I'm glad they provide the episode with subtitles on the Channel 4 website otherwise I would have had problems understanding the dialogues. It's really odd hearing Martin with this unfamiliar accent. He did a tremendous job. I felt so much pity for Lester, somehow it was foreseeable that he would snap one day. Hell, what a bitch of a wife   . I also enjoyed BBT very much, a creepy but very interesting character. I am curious about his motives and what will happen to Lester next.
Can anybody explain me what it is with the wound on Lester's right hand? He seemed shocked when he looked at it at the end of the episode. I suppose I missed something  .


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April 23, 2014 3:21 am  #19


Re: Fargo Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

stoertebeker wrote:

Can anybody explain me what it is with the wound on Lester's right hand? He seemed shocked when he looked at it at the end of the episode. I suppose I missed something .

He was hit by a stray shotgun pellet when Malvo shot Thurman which is bad considering he wants people to believe he was unconscious in the basement when two people were murdered in his home.
 

 

April 23, 2014 4:49 am  #20


Re: Fargo Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

asyouwish wrote:

stoertebeker wrote:

Can anybody explain me what it is with the wound on Lester's right hand? He seemed shocked when he looked at it at the end of the episode. I suppose I missed something .

He was hit by a stray shotgun pellet when Malvo shot Thurman which is bad considering he wants people to believe he was unconscious in the basement when two people were murdered in his home.
 

 
Aahh! Now I understand.  Thanks for the explanation.   


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