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February 13, 2014 5:25 am  #41


Re: Moriarty theories

Andersons theory doesn't have him officially dead. It has him officially vanished, but his idea is that sherlock used him to fake his own death.

 

February 13, 2014 2:30 pm  #42


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I think one of my favourite tumblr people said it best http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


http://finalproblem.tumblr.com/post/74547723987/miss-me

I love Andrew and his Moriarty was brilliant, but I can't really understand why someone would think he's alive just because there is a video of him. He wasn't standing on Speakers Corner in the flesh giving a speech, it's just a video. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/errr.png


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February 13, 2014 10:11 pm  #43


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I don't see why he couldn't have faked death.
And if he didn't why all the theories with no dead body found on the roof?

 

February 13, 2014 11:05 pm  #44


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February 13, 2014 11:09 pm  #45


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This is great. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png


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February 14, 2014 12:38 pm  #46


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"Stayin’ alive! It’s so boring, isn’t it? It’s just ...staying."
 


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February 15, 2014 3:37 pm  #47


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Now my theory is probably totally wrong but it was fun to come up with, so here goes...

I've always felt that Moriarty wasn't the real Moriarty. In series one Moriarty was never supposed to reveal himself blah blah blah, and then, suddenly, he appeared at the end.

I've always wondered whether the Moriarty we see is really an actor, working for the real Moriarty. He is a very over dramatic character after all.

Anyhoo...when you see (the pretend?) Moriarty being interogated by Mycroft, what if he did actually cave, and tell Mycroft that he was working for the real Moriarty, and the pretend Moriarty struck a deal with Mycroft, so from that scene of being released by Mycroft, Moriarty was then working FOR Mycroft, but secretly of course. Sooooo (sorry if this is getting complicated!)...Andrew Scott's Moriarty is then pretending to work for the real Moriarty, but is secretly working for Mycroft. And the rooftop scene was all another 'act' in the play, to convince the real Moriarty that Sherlock had fallen for it...

Of course, then I've no idea what Sherlock could have been doing those two years he was away...

But anyhoo...that is my crazy theory...that the pretend Moriarty didn't really blow his brains out because he was working for Mycroft and it was all orchestrated by Mycroft and Sherlock...

Um...yeah...my brains feel a bit blown after writing all that...ha ha!

Probably none of it is correct but I thought I'd share it for a giggle...


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February 16, 2014 10:46 pm  #48


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The thing I don't like about the Moriarty isn't Moriarty theory is that I love Andrew Scott's performance. And if the 'real Moriarty' came forward I feel like he'd have to knock the performance out of the park.


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February 17, 2014 4:56 pm  #49


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Michele wrote:

The thing I don't like about the Moriarty isn't Moriarty theory is that I love Andrew Scott's performance. And if the 'real Moriarty' came forward I feel like he'd have to knock the performance out of the park.

 
Oh yes, I totally agree. Andrew is great in the part.
Like I said, my theory is rather wacky anyway and highly unlikely, but I thought I'd share anyway.http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png


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February 21, 2014 1:20 pm  #50


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First thing I've got to say is that I haven't been able to watch 'The Sign of Three' yet because it wasn't recorded properly. So maybe something happened in that episode that explains why my most recent theory makes no sense at all (and there could, of course, be some other things I may have overlooked as I have watched the other episodes of series 3 only once and without subtitles and as you know, there were so many things going on...).

While laying in my bed and waiting for sleep to come I was once again thinking about Moriarty (*cough* yes, I do this sometimes *lol*) and him maybe not being dead. As much as I would love him coming back, I do not believe he really is. But I'd be the first of screeming 'hurray' if he would turn up alive. 
So I was thinking and then suddenly the idea came up: What if it was Anderson behind all this? The last thing I had seen of him was (if I remember correctly) him breaking down after his 'vision' of Sherlock telling him how he survived. So I thought what if Anderson was really turning mad and developped some kind of addiction to Sherlock and wanted to draw his attention, no matter what? So I have no idea at all how he should have managed to send the Moriarty-video all over England to appear on every screen and if my theory isn't just incredibly dumb, but it was just something I came up with. I don't really like it myself as I badly want the real Moriarty back.


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February 23, 2014 7:16 pm  #51


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James Moriarty- I believe that the 'Miss Me?' sequence was not pre-recorded due to the post-credits scene. He's still alive, or has a twin- Richard Brooke. The Mycroft theory would have been plausible without the post-credits scene
"I could kill Rich Brooke and bring back Jim Moriarty!" -Sherlock, Reichenbach FallThis could mean that the 'Moriarty' killed on the roof is Jim's twin- Sherlock met Jim at the pool only or not at all. Every behind-the-scenes event, every crime and puzzle made by Jim for Sherlock was actually by the 'true' Moriarty, but the in-person meeting on the rooftop was Richard Brooke. Rich Brooke is dead, and Jim Moriarty is back.
Therefore, Sherlock has effectively killed Rich Brooke and James Moriarty has been brought back. 
 Another quote to support my theory: "I'm so changeable!" -James Moriarty, Great GameThis line was an excuse for having two slightly different personalities or making unexpected decisions. Because one Moriarty is Rich Brooke and the other is actually James Moriarty, their actions, reactions and decisions are bound to be ever-so-slightly different. The Moriarty at the pool is a lot colder, more calculated and controlled. The Moriarty on the roof is more dramatic- more like an 'actor'- Rich Brooke. He was theatrical: "Ordinary Sherlock!", "It's just… staying!"
 Moran could have helped. Moriarty could have been on the run or hiding out somewhere, so Moran handled the network and arranged crimes while he was away. 

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March 11, 2014 11:21 pm  #52


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Swanpride wrote:

I stick to "We get a proper version of Sebastian Moran" - it kind of makes sense. We got the Anti-Sherlock with Moriarty, the Anti-Mycroft with Magnusson, I think it is time that we get the Anti-John. And that happens to be Moran.

 
That coukd work if Moran wasnt in jail and frankky didnt seem able to have a bigger role later. I havent read the canon and  I was thinking that there must be some enemy that is related somehow to Moriarty.
Anyway there are two Moriartys? I wonder if Janine could be a part of this plot. I am confused

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March 12, 2014 1:21 pm  #53


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Since the Moran we had so far was never specified as "Sebastian Moran", there is still the possibility that a relative of the Moran we saw so far will turn up in this role.

 

March 24, 2014 1:25 am  #54


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As I can remember,Moriarty was using info against Sherlock from Mycroft,right?So maybe the Fall was planned from Moriarty,Mycroft and Sherlock too.That's how Sherlock was sure for his jump and...Moriarty's suicide!!!Sherlock was "surprised" and acted as he had to,in order to play the game...and save his friends!Moriarty was satisfied that the game was on,plus he had a "nice fellow", (Mycroft)...Mycroft may needed Moriarty alive so he helped him with his suicide"!!!And Sherlock wouldn't be so "actor" before he jumps.Maybe he knows the Moriarty's trick from Mycroft and has to be emotional in order to fool Moriarty! After all, "This is a magic trick..."

Of course,he could be shot from a sniper in the back of his head as I didn't see any serious injuries in the front of his face.And this would destroy my previous theory...


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March 25, 2014 2:32 am  #55


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Could Jim be an actor as I read?Richard Brook?Could he be blackmailed or paid to "play" the game?Maybe the gun on the roof was empty or fake and a part of the plan(Richard's role in the game).And real Moriarty killed him for real with his snipers.Something like Jigsaw's victims-puppets in Saw :-P.

Also,it seems to me strange that John isn't as surprised as he should be in the last scene,learning about Moriarty's comeback from the dead...Hadn't Sherlock told him how Jim died...? ;-)


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May 8, 2014 12:09 am  #56


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I actually just posted this in a diffrent forum, but I thought it could fit here. 
In the beginning of The Empty Hearse Anderson tells Lestrade his theory of how Sherlock survived.  Anderson thinks a mask was placed on Moriarty's body that looked like Sherlock and fooled John.  I think this is interesting, because if this is a plausible theory, what happened to Moriarty's body?  If Moriarty's body had been on the roof, then it seems likely that Lestrange and Anderson would have seen it there when collecting evidence.  That leads me to the conclusion that Moriarty's body is missing.  If his body is missing then, I'm gonna guess Moriarty is also Not Dead.  I know this could be explained if you consider, that Moriarty’s death might not be Lestrade’s division.  So neither Lestrade or Anderson would have been able to see the crime scene.  Which would make sense because they obviously were not able to see Sherlock’s body.  This theory is probably wrong, but I'm gonna roll with it for now.  Sorry for the ramblings.


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October 3, 2014 7:21 pm  #57


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Sara,he could use a Sherlock mask to Moriarty's body to fool John and also put on a Moriarty mask and lay down where Moriarty was after the shot!!!Crazy??? :-P


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October 3, 2014 7:46 pm  #58


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Hahah amusing thought.

It would make sense that Mycroft covered up Moriartys death for a while to buy Sherlock time while he was undercover infiltrating the web...nobody knows what/who Moriarty is remember....

Tho maybe they got dna match from the tea/apple b4 the body..

The man on the roof...dead...but J. Hope told us Moriarty was more than just a man.....and in HLV the scientific books heavily implied a secret family history between Moriartyz/Holmses...

not even mentioning that the Holmes live in The Red House....

Seems not unreasonable for timeline to make it January 06..so maybe the vid. Was Sherlocks birthday gift .

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October 17, 2014 7:08 pm  #59


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Joalro wrote:

Moriarty is alive.  TRF was a chess game between Moriarty and Sherlock, and Moriarty's death was simply a move.  He was hoping that that move would force Sherlock into his death, but Sherlock had an appropriate coutner move.

The game is not over yet.

I so love this idea. Sherlock didn't die and Moriarty found out about it, so he probably watched Sherlock travelling around destroying the network while he was planning a new game in England which would start some time after Sherlock had come back home. Because if Moriarty is still alive, I just can't imagine him to just sit around for two years doing nothing. That would be so boring!

The family-idea (about mother Holmes) sounds also very interesting, though I'd be just a teensy bit... disappointed about it. :D

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December 11, 2014 9:43 pm  #60


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If you watch the part where Moriarty shoots himself in slow motion, you can see that Sherlock closes his eyes, whilst Moriarty's shot is nowhere near his mouth.


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