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January 12, 2014 10:49 pm  #21


Re: Did you miss me?

They were trolling like crazy. With everything

 

January 12, 2014 11:01 pm  #22


Re: Did you miss me?

tonnaree wrote:

Perhaps someone close to Moriarty that Sherlock missed?  Now seeking revenge?

Yeah, that was my first thought too! A recorded film used by Moriarty's right arm who Sherlock has missed (though it sounds quite not plausible, yet, Moriarty's alive didn't sound plausible to me either until tonight, so why not?). Anyway, TBH, I wouldn't mind having Andrew back http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png


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January 12, 2014 11:02 pm  #23


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that's the thing. What they did at the end leaves everything open for them to explore...

 

January 12, 2014 11:05 pm  #24


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I hope it's Moriarty's brother and not the guy on the roof. Faking suicide at each other is still kinda ridiculous. 

 

January 12, 2014 11:06 pm  #25


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Yeah. But still, if Moriarty's really survived, I hope we'll get a real explanation as to how he faked his death, just not like Sherlock's fall which I am still sceptical about...  

Sherlock may be even more twisted than I thought and he helped Moriarty to survive just for the sake to have an enemy who can measure up to him. What would his life be without a good villain? BORING. And he hates being bored. Moriarty and him are very much alike when it comes to this.http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/smile.png

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January 12, 2014 11:13 pm  #26


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But then Moftiss wil have to contrive something. That can't be good. Clearly they didn't anticipate bringing Moriarty back, while they did plan the fall. So whatever they'd come up with will never be very good. I really hope they don't do that. 

 

January 12, 2014 11:24 pm  #27


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They have a lot of options...could be his twin brother, could be just a recording from someone else, could be Sherlock himself, having conjured it up to save his own arse (though don't think so!!!! ) Could be that Moriarty just faked it.

Oh God. The wait is just too painful.

 

January 12, 2014 11:26 pm  #28


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Haha, WE have a lot of options too. As we come up with new scenarios. 

 

January 12, 2014 11:38 pm  #29


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silverblaze wrote:

I hope it's Moriarty's brother and not the guy on the roof. Faking suicide at each other is still kinda ridiculous. 

My feelings also.    They have my attention but I think, even for this show, that it is too far fetched for Moriartry to really still be alive.

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January 12, 2014 11:38 pm  #30


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As for Moriarty's death, you don't see his brain out, as it is worded all the time.
Of course it could  just be a fake gun and random red sauce.

I've also been wondering why Moriarty's body was never mentioned and probably was never found (otherwise  the opening scene of S03E01 wouldn't be a valid option for Anderson; think about it).
But if it wasn't found, why isn't it mentioned?
And how did anyone know about Moriarty being on the roof anyway?

 

January 12, 2014 11:44 pm  #31


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I think Moffat and Gatiss are having the last laugh here (as always) because they've been telling us all along that Moriarty was dead and to a certain extent they were trolling us a little. The reason I'm saying "to a certain extent" is because I still believe that Jim Moriarty, the one who broke into the Crown Jewels and played that game with Sherlock, blew his head off on top of St Bart's hospital. The man we see on the videos is most likely his brother.

This isn't a far fetched scenario. In the canon, Moriarty had two brothers, one of whom was evil and attempted to discredit Holmes' reputation in revenge for his brother's death.

I think it'd be a really cool idea if he was a twin brother though, as it might go some way to explaining the Richard Brook theory. And also the fact that Andrew Scott could still play him.

It always seemed a little strange to me that Andrew Scott kept attending all these Sherlock related events, Q & A's etc if he's no longer to be part of the cast...


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January 12, 2014 11:47 pm  #32


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DavidM1337 wrote:

As for Moriarty's death, you don't see his brain out, as it is worded all the time.
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It has been also explained all the time. It would have been simply too disgusting.

I'm hoping for a twin, too. Or no Moriarty at all. As silver said: Double fake would be ridiculous.

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January 12, 2014 11:48 pm  #33


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haha, I know.

At the screening on Wednesday he wasn't there at the beginning, he snuck in after the screening had started, and then Moffat told us he was there during the Q&A.

I went to speak to him and tell him he's amazing and I'm so glad to see he's possibly back, and took a picture with him and he made me promise not to show it to anyone until Sunday.

 

January 13, 2014 12:35 am  #34


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Could that be someone helping Sherlock scape? That was my first thought after "F*cking alive, what?"


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January 13, 2014 2:18 am  #35


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No...I didn't miss Moriarty. I really liked their version, but I also felt that his story was done. I didn't need more.

Therefore I hope (and am conviced) that he really is dead and this is only a scheme to fetch Sherlock back...after all, we are talking about a picture on a screen, nothing more. It's not hard to do this. There is enough "fake TV Show" DVD material after all. I bet in one of them Moriarty starts his fairy tale round with "did you miss me?"

 

January 13, 2014 2:33 am  #36


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 In the canon, Moriarty had two brothers, one of whom was evil and attempted to discredit Holmes' reputation in revenge for his brother's death..

I agree. It's a brother or his father. His father also featured in the canon iirc. Also, that video is a poor animation of his lower jaw. It could be someone else entirely using old images.

I don't believe that Jim Moriarty of season 2 is alive; it's someone else using the threat of his visage. Be interesting to see what they do with it.


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January 13, 2014 2:33 am  #37


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Swanpride wrote:

No...I didn't miss Moriarty. I really liked their version, but I also felt that his story was done. I didn't need more.

Therefore I hope (and am conviced) that he really is dead and this is only a scheme to fetch Sherlock back...after all, we are talking about a picture on a screen, nothing more. It's not hard to do this. There is enough "fake TV Show" DVD material after all. I bet in one of them Moriarty starts his fairy tale round with "did you miss me?"

Agree with you completely on this.  Very easy to get hold of clips of Moriarty and edit them together.  Either Mycroft did it to save Sherlock, or it's an evil twin of Moriarty's.


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January 13, 2014 4:26 am  #38


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Someone in Tumblr posted a theory saying that maybe Mary met John because  she was assigned/hired to kill him but fell in love with him instead. Following this theory I theorized that she could be the "Moran" of this verse and if she was I'm sure she would know the right people to "bring back" Moriarty and keep Sherlock in England.

 

January 13, 2014 4:30 am  #39


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We already had a Moran, though, so I guess ths character is out
 

 

January 13, 2014 4:40 am  #40


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Sherli Bakerst wrote:

Very easy to get hold of clips of Moriarty and edit them together.  Either Mycroft did it to save Sherlock, or it's an evil twin of Moriarty's.

Makes sense. I'm hoping it isn't an evil twin, though; even though it's canon, can they really get away with that in a contemporary adaptation? On any other TV show it'd be an enormous cop-out.
 

 

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