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December 30, 2014 12:05 pm  #61


Re: Little Archie

I had another idea about this - Sherlock mirroring Mycroft. 

He does not view himself as one of the adults and thereby becomes a sort of big brother to Archie. He does the things a big brother should do - take Archie seriously, explain things, and accept that sometimes the little one may be cleverer than himself. Which brings us to:

I’m the clever one.
Both of us thought you were an idiot. 
You were always so stupid.
You are a very stupid little boy.
Such a disappointment.
Mummy and Daddy are very cross.

Imagine a sensitive boy hearing those things over and over again from his elder brother. From TSoT and HLV we know that they are deeply ingrained in Sherlock’s mind and that he still regards Mycroft as a sort of inner judge. 

So how does Sherlock react when Archie proves to be the clever one?

"Oh, hello again, Archie. What’s your theory? Get this right and there’s a headless nun in it for you."
He is kind. He listens. He takes Archie seriously. He promises a reward. And he bends forward to be on eye level with the boy. 

But the most wonderful thing about this is that Sherlock does not spoil or flatter Archie but treats him as an equal. Something Mycroft never did. 


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December 30, 2014 12:09 pm  #62


Re: Little Archie

SusiGo - that analysis almost gave me a lump in my throat. So true! But oddly enough, Mycroft being "a rubbish big brother" also makes me a bit sad - for Mycroft. He should know better. 


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December 30, 2014 12:38 pm  #63


Re: Little Archie

Yes, and I wonder if we will learn more about their youth. Because for me the essential question is how Mycroft became the way he is. He influenced Sherlock and formed him according to his own example but where does Mycroft's attitude come from? Surely not just out of intellectual superiority.

We are presented with two loving parents but of course this is how they are now in old age. We have no idea what Mr and Mrs Holmes were like thirty or forty years ago when the boys were little. The only hint we get is Mrs Holmes giving up her career for children and the very foggy "other one" remark which does not explain if it applies to another Holmes sibling or someone completely different. 

Last edited by SusiGo (December 30, 2014 12:41 pm)


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)

http://up.picr.de/28609194so.png

 
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December 30, 2014 12:41 pm  #64


Re: Little Archie

Though Sherlock is clearly the favourite child!


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December 30, 2014 12:44 pm  #65


Re: Little Archie

Which might be a hint. But then the question is why Sherlock should have given himself over to Mycroft's influence if he felt loved or even preferred by his parents? 


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)

http://up.picr.de/28609194so.png

 
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December 30, 2014 12:47 pm  #66


Re: Little Archie

Well he must admire his brother's brain, I suppose...


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December 30, 2014 2:20 pm  #67


Re: Little Archie

I found this to be a very interesting analysis of the Holmes brothers.

http://wellingtongoose.tumblr.com/post/40248330269/the-holmes-brothers-equal-but-different


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