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January 8, 2014 2:47 pm  #21


Re: Little Archie

Swanpride wrote:

Are we sure that Sherlock didn't spread his genes around somehow?

"I have an international reputation... I don't remember what for"

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We haven't seen Archie before, the children from TRF were called Max and Claudette.


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January 8, 2014 2:55 pm  #22


Re: Little Archie

Mary Me wrote:

Swanpride wrote:

Are we sure that Sherlock didn't spread his genes around somehow?

"I have an international reputation... I don't remember what for"

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Ha ha , naughty girl... Mary...http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png


sherlocked wrote:

gently, I first saw SiP in German and liked it a lot, but I fell in love with the show, like you, when I first watched the original version on dvd. Like you, I fell instantly in love with Benedict's voice. And you are right, the dynamics are totally different.

First time I heard Benedict's voice was in London, "The First Estate". Even the strange Australian accent didn't matter. He could read a phonebook for me and I would be hooked. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


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January 8, 2014 2:57 pm  #23


Re: Little Archie

Slightly OT: And him singing in AOC is not so bad either. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png


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January 8, 2014 2:58 pm  #24


Re: Little Archie

I really enjoyed Archie's interaction with Sherlock it was really sweet. Especially when Sherlock replies "maggots", and Archie is like "Coooool!", I love Sherlock's face at this moment! http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png


Interesting thing, that episode... I mean.... :

* Sherlock tells Archie "I don't know, i'll ask one", implying he doesn't consider himself as an adult.

* At the end, Sherlock tells Mary and John that they already are the best parents, "Look at all the practice you've had. Well, you're hardly going to need me around now you've got a real baby on the way", aknowledging he probably often acts like a child/baby around Mary and John.

* On the other hand, he tells Mycroft "I'm not a child anymore!" when Mycroft asks him "Remember Red Beard?" (which could be an allusion to something from Sherlock's childhood) and yet, the way he protests, and the way he insists to know the reason behind Mycroft's moment of silence, remind me very much of a little child.

I find all this very interesting.

Because out of these 4 (Archie, John, Mary, Mycroft), and even I see John as a kind of reference for Sherlock (through the seasons, he has more or less taught him what's good or bad etc), Mycroft is the only one who is very close to a "parent figure" for Sherlock (which isn't surprising at all for a big brother actually): he cares a lot about him, always keeps an eye on him, and often adresses him like he would address a child (i.e the sheet scene in Buckingham: a scene in which Sherlock had been very stubborn and childish, actually;  when he tells him not to deal with Irene anymore "Yes Sherlock, you will".... etc etc) and he's the one to whom Sherlock says "I'm not a child" (and yet keeps acting like one most of the time, and I do think, even if he would never admit it, that he enjoys having a big brother who looks after him and treats him like a child)

Anyway, all this: Archie, which could be the very picture of how we imagine Sherlock as a child, and all those allusions to him being (or not being anymore) a child (well, acting like one at least), Mycroft possible allusion to Sherlock's childhood... well, I really don't think it's all a coincidence...

What if it plays a part in next episode?
 

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January 8, 2014 3:01 pm  #25


Re: Little Archie

SusiGo wrote:

Slightly OT: And him singing in AOC is not so bad either. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/happy.png

Just was surprised his voice was softer during the singing than I thought it would be.


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Sherlock: "I heard you.”

"Temptation coursing through our veins " 
(Tony Hadley)

 
 

January 8, 2014 3:04 pm  #26


Re: Little Archie

He can change his pitch of voice. Just think of Martin Crieff. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/smile.png


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)

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January 8, 2014 3:08 pm  #27


Re: Little Archie

Well... yes... but we are totally OT now. And you as a moderator. ts ts


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(Tony Hadley)

 
 

January 8, 2014 3:10 pm  #28


Re: Little Archie

Swanpride wrote:

So what? You don't need to do the act to get your semen in a woman.

 
Well, that's no fun at all!

Having read too much Parentlock fic my first reaction when I saw little Archie was "HAMISH"!!  http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


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January 8, 2014 3:12 pm  #29


Re: Little Archie

tonnaree wrote:

Swanpride wrote:

So what? You don't need to do the act to get your semen in a woman.

 
Well, that's no fun at all!

Having read too much Parentlock fic my first reaction when I saw little Archie was "HAMISH"!!  http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Sherlock: "I heard you.”

"Temptation coursing through our veins " 
(Tony Hadley)

 
 

January 8, 2014 3:28 pm  #30


Re: Little Archie

I see you have managed to return to subject. And in such a scientific and serious fashion. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

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January 8, 2014 3:35 pm  #31


Re: Little Archie

LOL. I feel like my serious comment in the middle of the page is totally out of place http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/lol.png


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January 8, 2014 3:48 pm  #32


Re: Little Archie

Sorry, Punch Me, your comments are very good and I actually started this as a serious thread. Got somehow out of hand. 


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

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January 8, 2014 3:56 pm  #33


Re: Little Archie

Mary Me wrote, that we haven't seen little Archie before, and that the kids from the abduction were called Max and Claudette.
Thanks, Mary, that puts that little idea of mine to bed. I remember Claudette, but I can't remember, where the name of the boy was mentioned. It's good, that you found that out, because I got one very clear screenshot from the little boy of TRF, and he looks VERY much like Archie, only 2 years younger, but with the same brown curly hair, just a little shorter. But even, if it is the same little actor, that doesn't necessarily imply, that he plays the same character. They could've just used the same kid, especially since Max is just seen for one second, when they are eating the chocolat.

 

January 8, 2014 5:36 pm  #34


Re: Little Archie

I loved Archie and think that they did 'bond' over likeness.  However, the one thing that stood out for me was that John thought it would be a good idea to leave a child in Sherlock's care unsupervised, considering the last time Sherlock was talking to children (prior to the RF) was in Scandal and he told them people didn't go to heaven they just died.

Even if John trusts Sherlock in a lot of things, I'm surprised he didn't see potential pit falls and ensure he was close by, but Sherlock seems not only to be in the flat by himself with Archie, but also picked out of everyone to talk 'conformity' into him.  Does Sherlock actually strike you as the person to do this??

I have no idea who decided Sherlock was best for the job, who dropped him off and left him in a flat with dead body parts in it, or who decided Sherlock was better left alone - quite frankly they deserve to have a boy obsessed with body parts - they brought it on themselves by introducing him to Sherlock.  LOL

Mxx

 

January 8, 2014 5:54 pm  #35


Re: Little Archie

@Mirthxx

I think that Sherlock had the contact details for Archie's mom and he called her. She might have been having tea with Mrs. Hudson for all we know. I'm not sure if John would have left a kid alone with Sherlock but since he doesn't live at 221B anymore... http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png

 

January 8, 2014 6:06 pm  #36


Re: Little Archie

Mrs. Watson wrote:

@Mirthxx

I think that Sherlock had the contact details for Archie's mom and he called her. She might have been having tea with Mrs. Hudson for all we know. I'm not sure if John would have left a kid alone with Sherlock but since he doesn't live at 221B anymore... http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png

ahhh yes.  I was forgetting that.  LOL.  Yeah, can see Sherlock overhearing a comment and thinking 'I'll fix that' and calling the mother himself. 

Mxx

 

January 8, 2014 6:42 pm  #37


Re: Little Archie

Mirthxx wrote:

ahhh yes.  I was forgetting that.  LOL.  Yeah, can see Sherlock overhearing a comment and thinking 'I'll fix that' and calling the mother himself. 

Mxx

Well, it would among his duties after all http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png

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January 8, 2014 6:48 pm  #38


Re: Little Archie

Mrs. Watson wrote:

Mirthxx wrote:

ahhh yes.  I was forgetting that.  LOL.  Yeah, can see Sherlock overhearing a comment and thinking 'I'll fix that' and calling the mother himself. 

Mxx

Well, it would among his duties after all http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png

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Yes, I think the whole thing was arranged by Sherlock himself.  It fits in with his meeting with Mary's ex as a potential usher.  He seemed to be "vetting" everyone who was going to have anything to do with the wedding.

And it's totally adorable.


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January 8, 2014 7:01 pm  #39


Re: Little Archie

At first I thought little Archie was Billy....the pageboy from the canon. Moreover Archie was the pageboy at the wedding (I think). Maybe we may see him in the future. And surprisingly we didnt see any "Toby" in this story (the dog in the Sign of Four). Later maybe.


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January 8, 2014 7:09 pm  #40


Re: Little Archie

Billy already turned up...one of Angelo's waiters is named that way.

 

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