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January 5, 2014 10:52 pm  #61


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Ozma wrote:

One thing - has anyone else noticed Mary didn't seem to be ecstatic when Sherlock told them he deducted she was pregnant? She seemed more upset than happy to me, and Sherlock's face kind of changed after seeing that. Just me?
 

She definitely panicked.


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January 5, 2014 10:54 pm  #62


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"The game is... something."

Yeah, right, Sherlock. The game is something, and something different, I would say. Someone already said it: this could be the end of Sherlock as we knew it. But then again, maybe not. We'll see.

Anyway: There was lots and lots of stuff in this episode that I absolutely loved, I had a really good time - and very nice pirouette, Sherlock! (I'm sure this will get made into thousands of gifs... http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/wink.png
). And the Opera House...! God, he's quite talented, don't you think? http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


I enjoyed how Sherlock and John were portrayed as best friends. As friends who love each other and will always be there for each other. Amazing stuff, really.
And the end brought tears into my eyes... lonely Sherlock, that almost broke my heart... http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png


But I'm missing something. I can't quite put my finger on it, so I'll just shut up until I've seen it again.


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January 5, 2014 10:54 pm  #63


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All the cases mentioned in the episode now up on Johns blog

 

January 5, 2014 10:55 pm  #64


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Is nobody going to mention Mycroft exercising?I almost fell out of my chair laughing. :D

 

January 5, 2014 10:56 pm  #65


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Ozma wrote:

They can't have John being a father, that's right. It is like you said too far from canon and also would make it difficult for him to be involved with Sherlock's cases etc as the series requires.
I have a feeling Mary is not going to be around for series 4.

One thing - has anyone else noticed Mary didn't seem to be ecstatic when Sherlock told them he deducted she was pregnant? She seemed more upset than happy to me, and Sherlock's face kind of changed after seeing that. Just me?
 

They did manage to work it with Torchwood though, Gwen still went off and did her stuff. So...maybe. I dunno, I don't think you are allowed to kill off babies on British tv.

could she have panicked because you are not really meant to go about deducing such things or if you do, you are meant to keep them to yourself?
 


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January 5, 2014 10:56 pm  #66


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Yes, I didn't get all the words during that scene because of the music (i had to concentrate even more to understand) but I too noticed she made a strange face when Sherlock said that. Who knows? Maybe she's already been pregnant in the past and something went wrong (miscarriage) so she's afraid it happens again or something like that. We don't know much about her past, after all... (the bbc version, not the canon Mary i mean)


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January 5, 2014 10:56 pm  #67


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tobeornot221b wrote:

Ozma wrote:

One thing - has anyone else noticed Mary didn't seem to be ecstatic when Sherlock told them he deducted she was pregnant? She seemed more upset than happy to me, and Sherlock's face kind of changed after seeing that. Just me?
 

She definitely panicked.

I agree, she panicked. Didn't look good to me, to be honest...
And could it be that Sherlock did a little bit of Martin Crieff right there and then? "Don't panick, there's absolutely no need to panick", something like that? http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/smile.png


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January 5, 2014 10:57 pm  #68


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LucidPlazma wrote:

Is nobody going to mention Mycroft exercising?I almost fell out of my chair laughing. :D

I actually did mention this in my longer post above http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/tongue.png


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January 5, 2014 10:57 pm  #69


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LucidPlazma wrote:

Is nobody going to mention Mycroft exercising?I almost fell out of my chair laughing. :D

Oh yes, yes, yes, same here, I just couldn't stop laughing...! http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/grin.png


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January 5, 2014 11:00 pm  #70


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Punch me in the face wrote:

LucidPlazma wrote:

Is nobody going to mention Mycroft exercising?I almost fell out of my chair laughing. :D

I actually did mention this in my longer post above http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/tongue.png


LOVE IT!!!

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January 5, 2014 11:01 pm  #71


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Rather liked the "thing" between Sherlock and the Maid of Honor.  She kind of "got him" and was pretty sharp.  But I don't think he was truly interested in her in that way though.  In this episode, Sherlock has given up the 'caring is not an advantage' facade and has shown he does care deeply. Just for a moment, in the happy time of the wedding, with everyone dancing around him, I think he wanted to reach out to someone and just try to be a part of it too, if only for a little while; but alas, no, it wasn't meant to be and the lonely man departs - alone, believing it is the end of an era like everyone told him it would be.


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January 5, 2014 11:11 pm  #72


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KeepersPrice wrote:

In this episode, Sherlock has given up the 'caring is not an advantage' facade and has shown he does care deeply. Just for a moment, in the happy time of the wedding, with everyone dancing around him, I think he wanted to reach out to someone and just try to be a part of it too, if only for a little while; but alas, no, it wasn't meant to be and the lonely man departs - alone, believing it is the end of an era like everyone told him it would be.

A lot of interesting facettes about Sherlock were shown in this episode, and apart from seeing how he behaves when he's drunk (hilarious!) and how he reacts to John asking him to be his best man, my favourite moment would be exactly the one you've mentioned, KP. The way he looks around and seems to search the room for... someone... that's loneliness, right there. And maybe this really was the first time (or at least one of the first times) he experienced what it really means to be lonely. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png


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January 5, 2014 11:14 pm  #73


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Sherlock loves to dance!  And has Ben had lessons?  He did very well on that spin.

I think Keeper hit that nail on the head, that for a moment Sherlock wanted to dance and be a parrt of the happiness.

May we all forever treasure our boys drunk and pratically passed out on the stairs.

Did all you Johnlockers notice that when the boys were sitting in 221B playing that silly game that John was practically playing footsie with Sherlock.  *giggle*

And lets' not forget them waking up in the Yard.  Betting that was one of the greatest mornings of Lastrade's life.
 


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January 5, 2014 11:16 pm  #74


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This moment was heartbreaking. I think he spent the day in a sort of frenzy full of positive feelings and some anxiety and crime solving and now he suddenly realises he does not belong there after all. And it was really sad that nobody came to him at that point. (Btw, this totally reminds me of the wedding scene in Guy Ritchie's SH film where RDJ leaves the wedding alone and unnoticed). 


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January 5, 2014 11:19 pm  #75


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Punch me in the face wrote:

Yes, I didn't get all the words during that scene because of the music (i had to concentrate even more to understand) but I too noticed she made a strange face when Sherlock said that. Who knows? Maybe she's already been pregnant in the past and something went wrong (miscarriage) so she's afraid it happens again or something like that. We don't know much about her past, after all... (the bbc version, not the canon Mary i mean)

It kind of gave me the impression that she made that face because getting pregnant wasn't really in her plans - just yet, or maybe even ever.

This is not Mary-bashing, please don't get me wrong. But we can't surely think Moffat and Gatiss put her in the series just to be 'lovely' and a nice new character...she has a long story (and maybe a secret) behind her and we might just see that in His last vow...

 

January 5, 2014 11:25 pm  #76


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tonnaree wrote:

Did all you Johnlockers notice that when the boys were sitting in 221B playing that silly game that John was practically playing footsie with Sherlock.  *giggle*
 

I haven't noticed that but I did notice that way John grabbed Sherlock's knee, lol.


Anyway, to come back to the last scene. Yes, that was very sad.

I really really like how those two last episodes show us how lonely the Holmes brothers are and I think that even Mycroft doesn't cope as well as he pretends too with loneliness. Like I said here before, one of his first reactions about the wedding is (it's not the exact words huh): "So I guess I'll see you more often from now" while talking to Sherlock.

At some point I thought that Molly was going to follow Sherlock and convince him to stay. It is so sad to see him leave like that. I can only imagine what he's going to feel like once he's back at home, thinking a page has definitely been turned...


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January 5, 2014 11:27 pm  #77


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tonnaree wrote:

And lets' not forget them waking up in the Yard.  Betting that was one of the greatest mornings of Lastrade's life.

Two words: "Waky, waky!" http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/lol.png


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January 5, 2014 11:28 pm  #78


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tonnaree wrote:

May we all forever treasure our boys drunk and pratically passed out on the stairs.

Did all you Johnlockers notice that when the boys were sitting in 221B playing that silly game that John was practically playing footsie with Sherlock.  *giggle*

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What I noticed and loved about the drunken "Who Am I Game" was John asking Sherlock, in all seriousness, "Am I pretty?" I actually found that to be quite erotic.  Of course the mood had to be broken by Sherlock not even knowing who Madonna is, but I thought it was really lovely and funny all at the same time. God, those writers and actors are amazing that they can pull off that sort of thing so we can never be quite sure which end is up.

Drunk on the stairs was perfect! It's the closest us Johnlockers will see then lying down together, I think.    In fan fiction many things take place on those stairs - not the least of which is Mrs. Hudson catching them.  BTW, nice little back story on Mrs. Hudson too.  I think we always knew she was a saucy thing in her day! 
 


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January 5, 2014 11:29 pm  #79


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Punch me in the face wrote:

I can only imagine what he's going to feel like once he's back at home, thinking a page has definitely been turned...

Another evening in a dark flat with some chips...? Oh God... http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/cry.png


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January 5, 2014 11:32 pm  #80


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KeepersPrice wrote:

Drunk on the stairs was perfect! It's the closest us Johnlockers will see then lying down together, I think. In fan fiction many things take place on those stairs -

Oh yes! And while lying on those stairs, Sherlock announces: "I have an international reputation!"
Ah, interesting... and what kind of reputation would that be...? http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/lol.png

(Oh yes, I'm a naughty girl right now...)


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