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January 6, 2014 8:08 am  #41


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

I have heard many theories - 3 in particular:

1- that's Sherlock's hand, and he got hurt somehow by or through Magnussen
2- that's Sherlock's hand, and he is in a hospital because he relapsed
3- that's Mycroft's hand...

 

January 6, 2014 10:27 am  #42


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

sj4iy wrote:

In this screencap of the trailer, I'm wondering, could this be Sherlock's hand on the hospital bed?  If you look, it looks like a man's body (with no gown and a blood pressure cuff on the bicep).  What are your thoughts?

There used to be quite a lot of pictures of Sherlock's/Benedict's hands in the picture threads here in the forum... maybe we should try and compare them ;)

But yes, I am also very much scared of HLV and of the horrible things I feel are going to happen there... http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/shocked.png
I think it's simply going to be heartbraking. Not to mention the terrible cliffhanger which will probably make Reichenbach look like a birthday party. And then the endless waiting again...

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January 6, 2014 11:51 am  #43


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

I actually don´t know what´s going to happen. As already mentioned it seems to be very unlikely that John becomes a father - I can´t imagine that right now, too much against canon. Or does somebody think otherwise? Also there were several hints already that something is not okay with Mary. So in first sight I think it has something to do with her and/or the baby. And honestly: If I had to make a choice, which of the characters have to leave the series, I would chose her. And, no, I am absolutely no Johnlocker, I was never against a Mary, but somehow, I have to confess, I find her nice, but also a little bit boring http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/confused.png
. There definetely must be a secret, if not, she´d be a very plain person. And I don´t want to miss Molly or Lestrade or Mrs. Hudson!
Or Mycroft, and that´s the next point: Mycroft seems to play a bigger role this time, a role, which I don´t get clear yet. There is something, or? But I don´t hope he must leave the show for any reason.

 

January 6, 2014 12:17 pm  #44


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

I was distrubed by the part in the trailer where Mycroft tells Sherlock "If you go against CAM you go against me."     WHAT!?!?!?


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January 6, 2014 12:46 pm  #45


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tonnaree wrote:

I was distrubed by the part in the trailer where Mycroft tells Sherlock "If you go against CAM you go against me."     WHAT!?!?!?

I wonder if he means in a literal sense or in a figurative sense...? For example, maybe it terms of power and influence, CAM is equal to Mycroft and that's what he means when says "You go up against CAM you go against me"...?


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January 6, 2014 1:11 pm  #46


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That's what I thought, too. As I said before, Moriarty was Sherlock's counterpart, now we get Mycrofts's. Can't wait...but I am glad that I don't have to go through this alone. I fear this will be horrible.

 

January 6, 2014 1:13 pm  #47


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

SilverMoonDragonB wrote:

tonnaree wrote:

I was distrubed by the part in the trailer where Mycroft tells Sherlock "If you go against CAM you go against me."     WHAT!?!?!?

I wonder if he means in a literal sense or in a figurative sense...? For example, maybe it terms of power and influence, CAM is equal to Mycroft and that's what he means when says "You go up against CAM you go against me"...?

I was mostly disturbed by the expression on his face. 

It would be a great twist if he allied himself with this psychopath. A man in Mycroft's position would have to deal with all kinds of unsavoury folks, why not have a deal with the devil when the situation requires it? I'd find it hard to believe that Mycroft's hands would be entirely clean. Then again, quotes in trailers are always out of context, just watch the previous ones. 

 

January 6, 2014 1:46 pm  #48


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I would think that Mycroft's position is that he doesn't want Sherlock stepping on his toes, so to speak.  Maybe he's going after CAM and doesn't want Sherlock to ruin it.


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January 6, 2014 4:49 pm  #49


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I'm worried about Mycroft now. =(

 

January 6, 2014 5:09 pm  #50


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

silverblaze wrote:

SilverMoonDragonB wrote:

tonnaree wrote:

I was distrubed by the part in the trailer where Mycroft tells Sherlock "If you go against CAM you go against me."     WHAT!?!?!?

I wonder if he means in a literal sense or in a figurative sense...? For example, maybe it terms of power and influence, CAM is equal to Mycroft and that's what he means when says "You go up against CAM you go against me"...?

I was mostly disturbed by the expression on his face. 

It would be a great twist if he allied himself with this psychopath. A man in Mycroft's position would have to deal with all kinds of unsavoury folks, why not have a deal with the devil when the situation requires it? I'd find it hard to believe that Mycroft's hands would be entirely clean. Then again, quotes in trailers are always out of context, just watch the previous ones. 

Yeah, people in high positions do that all the time. It's called corruption which I'm sure Mycroft is capable of. I wouldn't exactly blame him for that because if the situation requires it it's a perfectly reasonable thing for him to do... but I don't want to jump to early conclusions. I'm sure this bit was out of context.
 


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January 6, 2014 5:22 pm  #51


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

I think Mycroft saying "if you go against CAM you go against me"means that CAM is too powerful for Sherlock to destroy so it would be better if Sherlock doesn't even try for his own sake..

 

January 6, 2014 6:45 pm  #52


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

Westwood! wrote:

I think Mycroft saying "if you go against CAM you go against me"means that CAM is too powerful for Sherlock to destroy so it would be better if Sherlock doesn't even try for his own sake..

 
I do hope this is the correct context for the statement.


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January 6, 2014 6:59 pm  #53


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tonnaree wrote:

Westwood! wrote:

I think Mycroft saying "if you go against CAM you go against me"means that CAM is too powerful for Sherlock to destroy so it would be better if Sherlock doesn't even try for his own sake..

 
I do hope this is the correct context for the statement.

I'm thinking it probably is or at least something similar. When hearing Mycroft say it, it doesn't sound like a "threat" to me, more a warning. 
 


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January 6, 2014 7:12 pm  #54


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Isn't he just telling Sherlock to back off, like he did with the Woman?


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January 6, 2014 7:55 pm  #55


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I might be able to go to the Bafta screening on Wednesday (but don't worry I won't post any spoilers!)

However, just this - from what I hear only Amanda and Lars Mikkelsen will attend the Q&A - to me, that's a spoiler right there.

 

January 6, 2014 8:05 pm  #56


Re: Who else is nervous/scared about His Last Vow?

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Isn't he just telling Sherlock to back off, like he did with the Woman?

 
I think I agree with you, Besely.  There's something big going on, something where it must appear that Mycroft and associates are working with and/or condoning whatever it is CAM and his associates are doing and need to keep it very quiet.  OR it could it be that everything about CAM on the surface appears rosy and his publications are all rah, rah, pro-government or whatever it is that is needed by certain political parties and he's pulled the wool over everyone's eyes (except eventually Sherlock).  But we've had a glimpse of CAMs secret lair at the end of TEH, haven't we.  It's downright creepy. He's slime and he's got something on Mary for sure. Uh oh.....


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January 6, 2014 9:08 pm  #57


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I don't like the way it sounds, like it could be Sherlock's fault that something fatal is happening, maybe even to his friends. Does that happen in canon?
I'd prefer blackmail, maybe even a choice, a sacrifice... something like that. I guess it will be Sherlock doing the sacrifice. Because of the vow in TSoT that was mentioned?

Is it for sure that Mary dies already in HLV?


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January 6, 2014 9:12 pm  #58


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I can only speak for myself, I selfishly hoped she was going to!


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January 6, 2014 9:45 pm  #59


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I'm really looking forward to meeting CAM. I hope he's a villain you absolutely have to hate. Irene and Moriarty were villains, but they were kinda fun and adorable. I don't think CAM is gonna be in that category.

Wonder what he wants. He seems to be wanting something from Mary. Money perhaps?

And he's gonna break Sherlock down? How are they gonna do that without repeating Reichenbach themes? 

Who knows, maybe CAM has something on Mycroft too? He must have secrets. 

It's gonna be good. We're gonna be afraid, then sad, then we'll want to throw something at Moffat in the hiatus. And hug him. 

 

January 6, 2014 9:47 pm  #60


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Ooh.


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