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May 29, 2017 6:14 pm  #8061


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

It seems that he keeps it deliberately open. He is open to the possibility that maybe the meet for occasional sex, and maybe they don't. So it seems it's up to people watching what kind of relationship they think Shelrock and Irene have.

Interestingly enough (an sadly so), he is not that open when he speaks about Johnlock. He is much clearer about that not being part of their show and their version. 

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May 29, 2017 6:18 pm  #8062


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Yes this is just the point for this thread:  there is no speculation over Johnlock, it is a definite no- for the team, at least.


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May 29, 2017 6:27 pm  #8063


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Vhanja wrote:

It seems that he keeps it deliberately open. He is open to the possibility that maybe the meet for occasional sex, and maybe they don't. So it seems it's up to people watching what kind of relationship they think Shelrock and Irene have.

Interestingly enough (an sadly so), he is not that open when he speaks about Johnlock. He is much clearer about that not being part of their show and their version. 

I wonder why, for in S1 to S3 the signs have been pretty obvious.


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May 29, 2017 6:29 pm  #8064


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Certainly for John: women all the way.


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May 29, 2017 6:59 pm  #8065


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

I think there's no doubt about Sherlock and Irene's attraction to each other, but it looks like we're free to imagine how far they got physically!  I've tended to be of the mindset that they didn't do because (a) Sherlock is so scared of becoming involved and sex would only make him fall harder, and (b) I prefer Sherlock to remain celibate.  And maybe a little bit of (c) how could the reality ever match up to the fantasy with those two!   But I'm also happy to embrace the idea of the meetups at Harvesters (I imagine somewhere more exotic in reality, but the Harvester idea is too good to let go!). 

Whereas with Johnlock, I think they've been quite clear all along that there is no sexual attraction, never mind physical acts. 

And I suppose Johnlock would change the story they're telling, so there has to be a right answer rather than an open one. Whereas whether or not Sherlock and Irene consummated their relationship, doesn't really change it.

 

May 29, 2017 7:03 pm  #8066


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Schmiezi wrote:

I wonder why, for in S1 to S3 the signs have been pretty obvious.

Only for those who read them that way.

Liberty: I agree with your points. I also prefer Sherlock to stay away, because he is too scared of the consequences. Or, even better, he might indulge after S4, because he is more emotionally mature now than he was back in ASiB.

(Sorry, guys, I really struggle with was/were and past tense versions of various verbs and stuff. I think my posts of late have been riddles with grammatical errors).

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May 29, 2017 7:57 pm  #8067


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate


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May 29, 2017 8:02 pm  #8068


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Fantastic.
Do some people think she tells lies too?


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May 29, 2017 8:08 pm  #8069


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

What I liked in particular was that she was gracious enough to understand that people need to vent and that they are angry (which makes her much more gracious than me), but that she draws the line at demands (which I have no problem at all understanding).


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May 29, 2017 8:12 pm  #8070


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

On the latter point, what she said chimed very much with Ian's annoyance at people bullying Mark.


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May 29, 2017 8:16 pm  #8071


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

I will never understand how anyone can think that is ok. Some people needs to get their heads out of their arses and get some perspective.

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May 29, 2017 8:21 pm  #8072


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

But let's take a step back, because this thread also needs this:

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May 29, 2017 8:22 pm  #8073


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Aw, the boys + Rosie= adorable.


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May 29, 2017 8:25 pm  #8074


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

I will never get over John's face in that scene. I have never, in the entire series, seen him as happy as this. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/love.png


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May 29, 2017 8:27 pm  #8075


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

It's the way he kisses that child...so sweet.


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May 29, 2017 8:35 pm  #8076


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Fatherhood does agree with him in the end!  (And I think that's realistic.  Not everybody absolutely loves the small baby stuff).

Sue sounds lovely!  And yes, I think we'd mentioned the Mrs Hudson scene just a little bit up this thread: it kind of dismisses the idea early on and makes it clear that Mrs Hudson is pleasantly deluded! 

 

May 30, 2017 3:33 am  #8077


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Vhanja wrote:

I will never get over John's face in that scene. I have never, in the entire series, seen him as happy as this. http://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons/love.png

It's wonderful.


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June 9, 2017 8:49 pm  #8078


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Not sure if you guys have seen this particular interview. It's with both Mark and Steven. The second part is about Mary and brings nothing new, but it is kind of interesting to hear their thoughts about the "bromance" of Sherlock and John:



 

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June 9, 2017 8:59 pm  #8079


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

I must watch all those SDCC interviews again now that we know what actually happens!

 

June 9, 2017 9:03 pm  #8080


Re: Johnlock: The Official Debate

Good for the Mary thread!


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