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June 28, 2012 6:34 am  #1


A study of the Empty House

The first episode in Series 3 will be based around the premise we find in 'The Adventure of the Empty House".

So what aspects do we have that may be used?

Firstly , the title. Is there an 'empty house' opposite 221B in the BBC version?
Well, there was a massive bomb explosion there, so one would expect to find the building basically gutted after that. That would make it pretty "empty" now wouldn't it?

Of course we do start the story with a murder that needs solving & Dr Watson decides to 'lend a hand' in doing so.
He's been following cases through the newspapers & trying to solve them without much success but this one appealed to him.
Murder by person or persons unknown; weapon was a 'new' air rifle; victim seemingly had no enemies; no robbery occurred; room was locked.

I wonder if those facts alone will yield any 'updated' version from the pen of Gatiss?


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Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
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June 28, 2012 7:15 am  #2


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And more importantly, do you think Sherlock will use that dummy of his (that was hanging in his room) to fool whoever wants Sherlock dead when they find out he's still alive. I know disguising the dummy would be a bit old-fashioned for this show but I think it would still be cool.

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June 28, 2012 7:38 am  #3


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Oh the dummy or disguise thing will be a given really. I was leaving out the obvious things for now as I know that's what most will hone in on. It's fairly obvious; and Gatiss will know that people will link the dummy from last series with this show so don't be surprised if the deception is something completely different!

I'm not saying don't post about it, please be my guest. But the script won't be written by an average person.

I was looking at the finer details in this story. You can't get those by reading reviews & synopses; you can only get them by reading the actual story.
It's a short one & frankly there are better moments than the dummy one. The dummy concept will be used in a very comedic way I believe.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
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June 28, 2012 7:43 am  #4


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Sorry, I just said the first thing that came to mind. I bet the dummy was obvious for you all.


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June 28, 2012 7:48 am  #5


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Oh I am hoping Gatiss dresses the dummy up & lets it pop up somewhere really silly for comedic value; but that's just my warped sense of humour.
Picture a newspaper shot of Mycroft at some National function & there in the background is the silhouette of the dummy in a deerstalker etc. Or Mrs Hudson using it when she does her sewing, lol.

But don't apologise for thinking of it, it's so obvious though that I hope it's not used in a serious way.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
     Thread Starter
 

June 28, 2012 9:05 am  #6


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Hmm, pondering .....
In the canon, this is the story when Holmes tells of his talents in the martial art "baritsu" (giggle)
Wonder if there's a potential nod chance there?
Modern day equivalent ?
Would it be a martial art still?
hmmm


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
     Thread Starter
 

June 28, 2012 9:16 am  #7


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Maybe they create something out of this ultramodern gun constructed by the blind German mechanic Von Herder (love that name). And I think that the new Moran like Moriarty is going to be considerably younger.


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"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

June 28, 2012 9:30 am  #8


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Yes, it seems likely that they will use Moran for this one.
Could be that they don't use a gun as a weapon either. Maybe a souped-up taser? lol


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
     Thread Starter
 

June 28, 2012 9:44 am  #9


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When I think of modern weapons the gun comes to mind that fires ice-bullets and makes it impossible to trace the bullet to a gun.


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June 28, 2012 10:01 am  #10


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Hmm, that has merit I guess.

Who would the victim be? In the original it was Ronald Adair the son of an Australian Governor who was back in England with his mother who needed surgery & his sister. He played cards, didn't go over board & was liked by everyone.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
     Thread Starter
 

June 28, 2012 10:05 am  #11


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Oh also, in this story Holmes recounts the events at the Falls. Explaining how, once Moriarty was dead, he was stalked by Moran & had to evade attempts on his life from that man.
I wonder if this could play a part in the new one?
It would certainly then allow Sherlock to set up Henry Fishguard (which would still be comical in my eyes)


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
     Thread Starter
 

June 28, 2012 10:09 am  #12


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kazza474 wrote:

Hmm, that has merit I guess.

Who would the victim be? In the original it was Ronald Adair the son of an Australian Governor who was back in England with his mother who needed surgery & his sister. He played cards, didn't go over board & was liked by everyone.

I guess the story will be slightly more interesting than the solution in the canon. I mean, a squabble over false play at cards, that's quite dull. But I suppose the focus will be on Sherlock's return and the fight against his enemies anyway. Apart from that I think they will use the fact that Mycroft was in on the whole story of the faked death.


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

June 28, 2012 10:11 am  #13


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Yeah Susi, back in those days it WOULD have been a big deal; so I wonder (again, lol) what would be considered equally as big a deal these days?
hmm


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
     Thread Starter
 

June 28, 2012 10:21 am  #14


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Oh yeah, I was also wondering if they will ever do something like baritsu in the series. It would be pretty funny if they did :D


 

June 28, 2012 10:28 am  #15


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Yeah jimella,  again I think of the comedic value of that reference.  The debate rages as to WHAT ACD actually meant, was it  meant to be bartitsu or was it deliberate?
So , what is popular nowadays?
Maybe not a martial art? How about a fitness regime? Zumba? Sherlock may be a master of something called " Zimbo"!
Hmm, Sherlock in gym wear ....... interesting.


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Sherlock Holmes 28 March 13:08

Mycroft’s popularity doesn’t surprise me at all. He is, after all, incredibly beautiful, clever and well-dressed. And beautiful. Did I mention that?
--Mark Gatiss

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant."
Robert McCloskey
     Thread Starter
 

June 28, 2012 10:55 am  #16


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I will be interested to see:

How badly did Sherlock's death affect Watson?

Is Watson still connected and involved with police and or Mycroft? Or is he just doing amateur sleuthing on his own? Could it be that the legion of Sherlock blog cultists/conspiracists rather than disowning Sherlock have now canonized him and after his death and transferred their allegiance to John? Perhaps Holmes will be continually watching Watson and unknown to John is somehow leaving clues allowing Watson to solve mysteries ordinarily he could not solve.

I think kazza hinted in another post about Sherlock's disguise possibly being electronic, perhaps misrepresenting himself to Watson online or using fake ID of some sort. I think this is more likely than them dressing him up in some cheesy rubber nose, moustache, fright wig and glasses.

Will Moran return and in what form? I am still betting she will be a woman and I think it would be delicious if Watson was romantically entangled with her. Perhaps Moriarty's network suspects Holmes is not really dead so they want to be close to him. This would also give Holmes reason to return if he felt John was in danger again. [If the writers start Season 3 some period in the future, months or years after Reichenbach, they will need to explain why Sherlock stayed away so long and what brought him back at this particular time.]

I am convinced there will be a period in Season 3 where Watson disowns Sherlock for putting Watson and Mrs. Hudson through emotional hell. I will be very disappointed if John punchesSherlock once or twice and all is forgiven. Sherlock will have to work to get John back in SH's good graces.

Oh my god. I can't wait!


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June 28, 2012 11:39 am  #17


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We already know Sherlock does Judo as he has a Judo certificate hung over his bed...

Here's a cool bartitsu demo. Some people still practice it:



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June 28, 2012 9:00 pm  #18


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Awesome topic. I've been re-reading the original repeatedly to imagine various scenarios; of course it is impossible to know what Moftiss choose to keep and what to discard.
I doubt I could write all that's crowding in my head in one post.
For starters:
they'll probably keep the fact that Sherlock is using disguise to disarm Moriarty's network, and that Moran is the LAST major player, thus Sherlock considers it safe to reappear.
I personally hope that his disguise is not electronic, but quite real. In original, he is a book store owner, way lower than Watson on society scale. What could be the equivalent? In my world, he lives with the homeless network, and bumps into Watson as a homeless man- one of those people we don't concentrate our attention on. Then as a homeless man he follows him home. Living as part of his homeless network could also justify his sickly appearance (as noted in the canon. he is extra thin and extra pale, ans not healthy at all. Back to some kind of addiction perhaps?)
   I am much more interested in a relationship dynamic than the action, as action can be updated in millions of ways, while it is very rewarding to ground the relationship in the canon. Updating the crime- anything would work, really. Casino being rigged. Online sports betting. Whatever. What, I hope, remains is that Moran is a respected and well- known society member; he is referenced in the canon as a member of upper class, and I hope remains so. Perhaps we see him (or her) in the beginning conversing with Mycroft?
I sincerely hope there is no Moran the Woman Involved with Watson. Didn't poor John suffer enough? If we are talking about Sherlock/John dynamic, I'd much rather Sherlock need John rather than vise versa. Canon supports it- John saves Sherlock's life when Sherlock struggles with Moran ( in original, similar to a way John saved Sherlock with Golem, so Moftiss have to come up with something new); Original Holmes has to secretly buy out Watson's practice for lots of money ( more than it's worth) to make Watson move in ( as seen in "Norwood Builder"). I'd love to see that retained; it seems to me psychologically correct that Sherlock has to wait and work to go back to their previous arrangement.

I'm sure I'll be babbling more on the topic soon.

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June 29, 2012 6:25 am  #19


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I like your thoughts, Deerstalker. It'll be interesting to see how they deal with the fact that in the story Watson has lost his wife during Sherlock's absence.


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"To fake the death of one sibling may be regarded as a misfortune; to fake the death of both looks like carelessness." Oscar Wilde about Mycroft Holmes

"It is what it is says love." (Erich Fried)

“Enjoy the journey of life and not just the endgame. I’m also a great believer in treating others as you would like to be treated.” (Benedict Cumberbatch)



 
 

June 29, 2012 8:57 am  #20


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Bartitsu is still around, and has been re-popularised by the Steampunk movement..



Personally, I'd say Sherlock has also engaged in Aikido ('Vatican Cameo' scene) as Judo moves quite different. Then again, he should have never gotten in so much trouble with the choking in Chinatown and later by Watson. Both times he actually made the situation worse for himself by not breaking the lock earlier.

 

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