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Films » Entertainment movies vs Good movies » November 18, 2017 6:29 pm

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I have a problem with this distinction because in Germany we have the very same with literature, a division between entertainment and "real" literature which has caused problems and anger for decades. And it is something many Germans love about anglophone literature - that that distinction seems to be far more blurry.
In simplified terms: In Germany a book either sells well or it is literature. It either sells well or gets awards. People either earn money with it or have to rely on grants and award money. 

I do not have a problem with putting many films in one of those two categories you mention - but what about the films that do not belong to any of these? For example "Dead Poets Society" is an accessible, entertaining story - but also one that has given me much food for thought. Is it an entertainment/popcorn/takeaway movie or is it not? And this is why such pigeonholing not really helpful.  

 

Character Analysis » Eurus Holmes » November 18, 2017 6:22 pm

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Thank you for explaining. So would you argue that spending the rest of her life in Sherrinford is sufficient punishment (within the show, not in reality)?
Because my problem is this: I might see Sherlock forgiving her after some period of adjustment but doing it just like that, minutes after he has learned that she killed his childhood friend, does not seem very believable to me. What if he had shot his brother or John? What if John had shot the governor? What about the possible consequences for Molly's wellbeing? 

Character Analysis » Eurus Holmes » November 18, 2017 1:04 pm

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This is all very true.

My problem with this reading of the story is that adult Eurus is never actually made responsible for what she did. And I am talking about Moriarty and his campaign, blowing up 221b, torturing Sherlock, torturing poor Molly, killing the governor, his wife, the three Garridebs, and the therapist from TLD (those are the deaths that we know of). Sorry but the end does not work for me. Too easy, a hug, family visits, Sherlock playing the violin with her. For me, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Imitation Game (spoiler thread for those who have seen it) » November 17, 2017 8:02 am

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Vhanja wrote:

However, I don't go to fan forums of those movies to post my negative views of them. I either watch them for my personal entertainment or I just leave them alone and go watch something I enjoy.

 

Yes, I agree. And while there are indeed elements in TIG that I do not like and that I would have preferred not to see because they are blatantly untrue Benedict's performance is so beautiful and the overall message of the film important. But for me, life is too short to go on and on about works of art I do not like. I make a cut and turn to something I like better. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » Let It Fall Back (working title was “Rio”) » November 17, 2017 7:58 am

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Thank you for opening the thread, I had not seen this. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » His "genius roles" - differences and similarities » November 15, 2017 12:41 pm

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Very interesting idea, Vhanja. I would include Stephen Ezard from "The Last Enemy" who is described on Wikipedia quite aptly:

The story is told through the eyes of a mathematical genius, Stephen Ezard, who is portrayed as a recluse showing some signs of obsessive-compulsive disorder. But the shy genius, played by Cumberbatch with many pre-echoes of his later, celebrated Sherlock Holmes' brittle reclusive, overcomes his own inhibitions ...

I find it fascinating how Benedict gives life to these characters whose genius is the only common feature. I agree about Strange and Sherlock being the only truly arrogant characters and even these two are completely different from each other. 
 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Child in Time » November 15, 2017 12:37 pm

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diva wrote:

"Benedict Cumberbatch has only gone and won our Unmissable Actor of the Year award in heat’s first ever #UnmissableAwards."

https://www.instagram.com/p/BbenwNLFLK6/

Very happy about that - and so was he if you look at the video. A great reward for the first feature film made by him and his company. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Imitation Game (spoiler thread for those who have seen it) » November 15, 2017 12:36 pm

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Criticism is fine. I just wonder if too much criticism may spoil the fun. For me it would. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Imitation Game (spoiler thread for those who have seen it) » November 14, 2017 9:05 am

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Exactly. He was probably known for his work in mathematics and computer science as well as biology but everything in connection with breaking Enigma only became public after the Official Secrets Act had expired. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Imitation Game (spoiler thread for those who have seen it) » November 13, 2017 6:37 pm

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This may be true for the UK as a whole and people who are acquainted with this part of history but I am quite sure that e.g. in Germany many people outside the realms of history and maths/computer science had not heard of him or his fate. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » The Imitation Game (spoiler thread for those who have seen it) » November 13, 2017 2:52 pm

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I suppose we shall never know what really happened when Turing died. The investigation was not conducted the way it should have been. On the other hand I do not see a reason for murder and I wonder if an intelligent man like Turing really would have been sloppy enough to poison himself by accident. 

We should not forget the overall climate of distrust, the anti-Communist manhunt in the US, men like Burgess who created suspicion towards "unreliable gay men" in Britain. The fact that Turing's Norwegian friend was chased and told to stay away from him may have been an indicator that he did feel observed and cast out. I think I read that in the 1950s climate he would never have got the clearance for working at a place like Bletchley. 
I am not sure if the story about the fortune teller in the seaside resort is mentioned by Hodges or someone else. He visited the town with friends and went to see this woman and came back very subdued. His friends said he seemed very much changed and some days later he was found dead. I am not talking about anything supernatural here but it seems that shortly before his death he was not as hopeful and positive as some biographers say. 

Maybe you know the letter Benedict read at Letters Live and which shows that Turing closely associated his standing and credibility as a scientist with his public reputation. 

I'm afraid that the following syllogism may be used by some in the future.

Turing believes machines think
Turing lies with men
Therefore machines do not think

Yours in distress,
Alan

It was written two years before his death but I feel that the hormone treatment and the public humiliation did not improve his situation. 
 

Other » The dark side of fandoms » November 7, 2017 8:49 pm

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Yitzock wrote:

Yeah, and not only that, but you can acknowledge that there flaws in something and still love it overall. 

This is so true. 

And, yes, tonnaree, I think I will try this next time someone tries to dissuade me from liking something. 

Benedict's Non-Sherlock Work » let's discuss... dr Strange (spoilers) » November 7, 2017 2:52 pm

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Interesting discussion. My take on it: From what I read about Turing, arrogance was not really part of his personality. This may have been shown in the film but tbh, those are the moments where I get a Sherlock feeling. Turing may have suffered from Asperger or a related condition which made it difficult for him to assess and understand other people's behaviour, words, or hidden signals. 

In my opinion the only one of these three who is truly arrogant is Stephen Strange. He is arrogant and too full of himself and this hubris leads to his downfall. He has to learn a bitter lesson in humility and his injuries and 100 percent self-inflicted. 

As far as I know, the real Turing and Hawking were/are not arrogant in the way Strange is. 

And for me the most fascinating thing about Doctor Strange is of course what happens after his downfall, how he learns the hard way how to heal himself (to a certain extent) and how to use his newfound powers as he did with his surgical skills in his old life. 

Finally I would say that Sherlock and Doctor Strange have far more similarities than (real) Turing and Hawking. 
 

Other » The dark side of fandoms » November 7, 2017 12:21 pm

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Interesting discussion. And you know what - I think it has also to do with arrogance.

Let me compare it with food. I eat something and enjoy the taste and think, well, that was a really delicious meal. Enter a gourmet and they start dissecting every single flavour and spice and what was lacking and what was used in excess and the whole joy of eating this food is gone. Why? Because someone had to present themselves as a specialist who knows better, whose experience is greater, who used to love this restaurant when Whatsisname was chief but it went down the drain since then ...

Don't get me wrong, I love analysing Sherlock and other shows but not to tell others how shitty they are, how stupid one must be to like them. Life is too precious to occupy myself with things I do not like and robbing other of their joy makes it even worse. 
 

Latest News » These "series 4 is the last" rumours » November 3, 2017 10:43 pm

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Frankly, I am not sure this would work for the majority of fans. Many complained about S3 and even more about S4 that there was not enough of the Sherlock and John show. While I really enjoyed for example "Mr Holmes", I think most people are so attached to Benedict and Martin playing these roles, that a version completely without them would not work. 

General Sherlock Discussion » The Extended Mind Palace/Dream Theory (contains spoilers) » November 2, 2017 7:33 pm

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I think this is a good attitude, tonnaree. 

There is not one EMP theory but quite a lot of them. What I appreciate about this part of the fandom is the open-minded and friendly discussion that is going on there. And you are right, there are some pretty weird things going on that are hard to explain with sloppiness, forgetfulness, or lack of professionalism. 
 

Benedict's Press » Interview magazine November 2017 » November 2, 2017 3:52 pm

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Oh, I just wanted to post that! Great interview, great pics. And he is going to do theatre again. Yeah. 

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